XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: incubus9536612@gmail.com 
  
 On 2019-10-14, The Natural Philosopher  wrote: 
 > On 14/10/2019 11:36, Incubus wrote: 
 >> On 2019-10-14, The Todal  wrote: 
 >>> On 14/10/2019 10:54, Incubus wrote: 
 >>>> On 2019-10-13, nightjar  wrote: 
 >>>>> On 13/10/2019 16:43, tim... wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> "nightjar"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>> news:YMCdnZDnRYaYlT7AnZ2dnUU78I_NnZ2d@giganews.com... 
 >>>>> ... 
 >>>>>>> Of greater influence are probably dissatisfaction with the mess that 
 >>>>>>> the Brexiteers have made of the process so far 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> ITYF it was a Remainer who made a mess of the process 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Mrs May achieved a reasonable deal that the EU could live with. It was 
 >>>>> the extreme Brexiteers who stopped that deal getting through 
 parliament. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The deal was an absolute turd but you will find that Remainers in 
 Parliament 
 >>>> also voted it down. 
 >>>> 
 >>> 
 >>> The deal was actually an excellent one, and it is still the only 
 >>> alternative to a no-deal and there's certainly a chance that MPs will 
 >>> approve it now they realise that it's this deal or no deal. 
 >> 
 >> If you think the deal was excellent then you haven't understood it. 
 >> 
 > Or alternatively he realises it is even better than being in the EU, for 
 > the EU, and hates Britain enough to think that is good. 
 > 
 >>> So "absolute turd"? Will you feel betrayed? Will you march on the 
 >>> streets to demand that Boris resigns, after we leave the EU with Theresa 
 >>> May's deal? 
 >>> 
 >>> Honestly? 
 >> 
 >> It depends on what is renegotiated.  The most dangerous aspect was the 
 >> "backstop". 
 >> 
 > The backstop meant 'you can never leave' 
  
 You have read it and understood it.  As you said, either Todal hasn't or he 
 has and wants the EU to remain as overlords for perpetuity. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)