From: noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk 
  
 On 14/10/2019 12:05, MM wrote: 
 > On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:32:17 +0100, Ian Jackson 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 >> In message <580246b30ccharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles 
 >>  writes 
 >>> In article <58024428bddave@davenoise.co.uk>, 
 >>>    Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>>> In article , 
 >>>>     Stephen Cole  wrote: 
 >>>>> Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>>>>> In article , 
 >>>>>>     Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>>>>> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>>>>> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers 
 >>>>>>> who've seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>> 
 >>>>> That€€€s no surprise as the electorate has changed; a million or more 
 dead 
 >>>>> Leave voters and a couple million freshly-minted teenage voters since 
 >>>>> June 2016. The longer that Brexit is fobbed off before a 2nd referendum 
 >>>>> the more the scales will tip toward Remain. 
 >>> 
 >>>> True. And it is their future which is important. More than those of the 
 >>>> old farts who talk about the last WW all the time. Even although they 
 >>>> weren't in it. 
 >>> 
 >>> I was 5 when WW2 ended. you'd need to have been 13 years older than me to 
 >>> have served in it - that's 92+ 
 >>> 
 >> You can get two in-phoners who start off by saying exactly the same 
 >> thing - but end up by making points that are diametrically opposite. 
 >> 
 >> "My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >> occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful - and 
 >> the EU has allowed them again to become far too powerful. My father 
 >> reckons that before long, they will be totally dominating all the 
 >> members of the EU (including the UK), and they will be dictating what we 
 >> do. We therefore need to leave." 
 >> 
 >> "My grandfather fought in WW1, and my father fought in WW2. The wars 
 >> occurred because the Germans were allowed to become too powerful. 
 >> However, my father says that the EU will make sure that they are kept in 
 >> check, and they will not be able to do again. Because of the EU, Europe 
 >> is a much safer place than it used to be." 
 > 
 > And obviously the second version is the true one, borne out by the 
 > past 70 years of peace. 
 > 
 > MM 
 > 
  
 Or it could be because USA and NATO have effectively prevented the 
 Germans from having a national army. 
  
 The British and American forces in the Rhineland see to that. 
  
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