XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: incubus9536612@gmail.com 
  
 On 2019-10-14, The Todal  wrote: 
 > On 14/10/2019 13:52, Incubus wrote: 
 >> On 2019-10-14, The Natural Philosopher  wrote: 
 >>> On 14/10/2019 11:36, Incubus wrote: 
 >>>> On 2019-10-14, The Todal  wrote: 
 >>>>> On 14/10/2019 10:54, Incubus wrote: 
 >>>>>> On 2019-10-13, nightjar  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> On 13/10/2019 16:43, tim... wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> "nightjar"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>> news:YMCdnZDnRYaYlT7AnZ2dnUU78I_NnZ2d@giganews.com... 
 >>>>>>> ... 
 >>>>>>>>> Of greater influence are probably dissatisfaction with the mess 
 that 
 >>>>>>>>> the Brexiteers have made of the process so far 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> ITYF it was a Remainer who made a mess of the process 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Mrs May achieved a reasonable deal that the EU could live with. It 
 was 
 >>>>>>> the extreme Brexiteers who stopped that deal getting through 
 parliament. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> The deal was an absolute turd but you will find that Remainers in 
 Parliament 
 >>>>>> also voted it down. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> The deal was actually an excellent one, and it is still the only 
 >>>>> alternative to a no-deal and there's certainly a chance that MPs will 
 >>>>> approve it now they realise that it's this deal or no deal. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> If you think the deal was excellent then you haven't understood it. 
 >>>> 
 >>> Or alternatively he realises it is even better than being in the EU, for 
 >>> the EU, and hates Britain enough to think that is good. 
 >>> 
 >>>>> So "absolute turd"? Will you feel betrayed? Will you march on the 
 >>>>> streets to demand that Boris resigns, after we leave the EU with 
 Theresa 
 >>>>> May's deal? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Honestly? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> It depends on what is renegotiated.  The most dangerous aspect was the 
 >>>> "backstop". 
 >>>> 
 >>> The backstop meant 'you can never leave' 
 >> 
 >> You have read it and understood it.  As you said, either Todal hasn't or 
 he 
 >> has and wants the EU to remain as overlords for perpetuity. 
 >> 
 > 
 > Neither of you has understood it. The backstop means that once you have 
 > devised a technological solution to regulating the border without having 
 > a hard border, the backstop will become irrelevant and the break from 
 > the EU will be complete. 
  
 So you haven't properly read it then. 
  
 Thank you for clarifying. 
  
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