XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 abelard  wrote: 
  
 > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:16:20 +0100, Pancho 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 > >On 14/10/2019 11:03, Cursitor Doom wrote: 
 > >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:34:24 +0000, Incubus wrote: 
 > >> 
 > >>> The only "flaw" with the referendum is that it returned the result you 
 > >>> didn't want.  You wouldn't be whining about "flaws" and "lies" if the 
 > >>> result had been to remain in the EU.  You'd have no time for any 
 > >>> arguments in favour of a second referendum or ignoring the result then. 
 > >> 
 > >> Yeah, just like 1975 all over again and the BIG LIE back then: it was 
 > >> just a 'common market' and certainly not a step on the road to a federal 
 > >> superstate; oh no, no, heaven forefend. 
 > >> 
 > > 
 > >Forefend - I don't think I have ever seen that word before. I see the 
 > >phrase "heaven forfend" is recognised as a standard phrase, but I have 
 > >never heard it, always heaven forbid. 
 > > 
 > >I like a new word, but it doesn't really seem to have enough to offer to 
 > >justify using it. 
 > > 
 > >Where do you come form? 
 > 
 > i do not equate forfend with forbid 
 > 
 > more like protect us from 
  
 I think forfend is probably the more appropriate word the way most 
 people use the phrase.  As you say the sense is more heaven protect us 
 from this than heaven forbid this behaviour. 
  
  
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