XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: incubus9536612@gmail.com 
  
 On 2019-10-13, abelard  wrote: 
 > On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 13:53:04 +0100, JNugent  
 > wrote: 
 > 
 >>On 13/10/2019 05:33, Tim Streater wrote: 
 >>> In article , JNugent 
 >>>  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 12/10/2019 16:35, tim... wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
 >>>>> news:5801d4258edave@davenoise.co.uk... 
 >>>>>> In article , 
 >>>>>> €€ Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>>>>> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>>>>> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers 
 who've 
 >>>>>>> seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> very marginally 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> and to less than the extent that Remain was in the lead before the 
 >>>>> last vote 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> and you know what campaigning did to that lead. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> Wonder what the average UK voter feels about those who have fled the 
 >>>>>> country to avoid paying taxes being allowed to vote? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> I for one think that they've got a bloody cheek complaining about 
 >>>>> being disenfranchised - they chose to be disenfranchised. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> That's not as straightforward as some people seem to think. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> An ex-pat Brit living in (say) Spain might have a vote in local 
 >>>> elections in their area of residence, but unless they take pout 
 >>>> Spanish citizenship they won't be allowed to vote in Spain's 
 >>>> parliamantary elections (and quite right too). 
 >>>> 
 >>>> But unless they're allowed to vote in UK Parliamentary elections - for 
 >>>> life - they are disenfranchised from having any say in the government 
 >>>> of anywhere. And that cannot be right. They are not second-class 
 >>>> people who should have fewer rights than others. 
 >>> 
 >>> Then let 'em take out Spanish citizenship. I lived in Switzerland 12 
 >>> years and California 12 years. I didn't expect to have a vote in either 
 >>> location. 
 >> 
 >>Not everyone who lives in Spain is necessarily entitled to Spanish 
 >>citizenship. 
 >> 
 >>Spain isn't the UK (with its exceptionally lax controls on citizenship), 
 >>after all. 
 > 
 > spain is indeed another country...if you vote to leave 
 >     you risk imprisonment 
  
 That will be coming to all EU member nations soon enough.  Get out while you 
 can. 
  
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