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 From: compuelf@gmail.con 
  
 On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:41:19 +0100, Keema's Nan 
  wrote: 
  
 >On 13 Oct 2019, KWills Shill #3 wrote 
 >(in article): 
 > 
 >> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:35:03 +0100, Keema's Nan 
 >>   wrote: 
 >> 
 >> > On 12 Oct 2019, KWills Shill #3 wrote 
 >> > (in article<2073qedp7lij49onn46rhrg3sn61b7svbn@4ax.com>): 
 >> > 
 >> > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:04:04 +0100, Keema's Nan 
 >> > >   wrote: 
 >> > > 
 >> > > > On 11 Oct 2019, KWills Shill #3 wrote 
 >> > > > (in article): 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:11:54 +0100, Keema's Nan 
 >> > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > 
 >> > > > > > On 10 Oct 2019, KWills Shill #3 wrote 
 >> > > > > > (in article<7sutpete42glgarj65re609p02srd22llv@4ax.com>): 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 05:23:25 -0700, Grik-bastarde€€ 
 >> > > > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 02:52:03 -0700, KWilly Shit #3 
 >> > > > > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 04:59:26 -0700, Grik-bastarde€€ 
 >> > > > > > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 02:44:21 -0700, KWilly Shit #3 
 >> > > > > > > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 07 Oct 2019 13:48:55 +0100, Keema's Nan 
 >> > > > > > > > > > >   wrote: 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > [...] 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God came first. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which god? There are a great number to chose 
 from. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is only One, although He is interpreted 
 differently by 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > various 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > groups. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's Ganesha? 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever you want to call Him, there can only be 
 one. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > Did he manufacture himself? And if so, where did he 
 get all the 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > parts 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > from - 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > > given that he had yet to create the universe? 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > If the Christian god does exist, I do hope he will 
 allow me to 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > grasp having always existed. I can accept a starting 
 point and 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > going 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > on forever from there. But I can't wrap my mind around 
 having 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > always 
 >> > > > > > > > > > > existed. 
 >> > > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > > So what existed before the Universe? Like, the day 
 before 
 the 
 >> > > > > > > > > > Universe came into being? 
 >> > > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > > Everything was contained within a singularity. 
 >> > > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > > So what existed ten minutes before the singularity came into 
 being? 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > Time didn't exist before the big bang. 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > Ok. So who thought up the rules of time; so that after the Big 
 Bang it 
 >> > > > > > could 
 >> > > > > > obey them? 
 >> > > > > 
 >> > > > > Humans. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Are you advocating a Multiverse where humans are in charge of 
 everything? 
 >> > > 
 >> > > No. 
 >> > 
 >> > How can humans have thought up rules prior to the Big Bang in that case? 
 >> 
 >> As far as I know, they didn't. Especially since they didn't 
 >> exist. 
 > 
 >Good. 
 > 
 >You seem to be suggesting that time invented itself from nothing and 
 followed 
 >rules it created itself from nothing. 
 > 
  
      I do no such thing. 
  
 >Do you have an explanation as to how it managed that? And if not - why you 
 >are partaking in this thread (other than an attempt at some weird point 
 >scoring exercise)? 
 > 
  
      Since I didn't make the claim you dishonestly assign me, no. Care 
 to explain why you thought lying was a smart idea? 
  
 >> > > > > > > > And where did the singularity come from? 
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > > From everything being compressed is my guess. But it's only a 
 >> > > > > > > guess. 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > Think of the energy you would need to expand a singularity into 
 >> > > > > > trillions 
 >> > > > > > upon trillions of tons of matter. 
 >> > > > > > 
 >> > > > > > Where did the energy come from? 
 >> > > > > 
 >> > > > > From the singularity itself. This should be obvious. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Therefore in your case E=mc2 does not apply. So how can you justify 
 your 
 >> > > > €obvious€ ideas? 
 >> > > 
 >> > > I made no suggestion that would negate E=mc. 
 >> > 
 >> > There is no light present in a singularity, and so you cannot have a 
 figure 
 >> > for c. The whole point of attempting to create a singularity is that all 
 the 
 >> > laws will break down. 
 >> 
 >> Bummer. 
 > 
  
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