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  Msg # 31763 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:04  
  From: ROGER HAYTER  
  To: THE NATURAL PHILOSOPHER  
  Subj: Re: Brexit deal almost agreed!  
 XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: roger@hayter.org 
  
 The Natural Philosopher  wrote: 
  
 > On 13/10/2019 16:45, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > > Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 > > 
 > >> In article , 
 > >>     abelard  wrote: 
 > >>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 13:59:01 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" 
 > >>>  wrote: 
 > >> 
 > >>>> In article , nightjar 
 > >>>>     wrote: 
 > >>>>> As the population ages, it tends to get more right wing, so the ones 
 > >>>>> that die off are replaced by others and the balance due to age 
 > >>>>> remains much the same over time. OTOH, there is a generational 
 > >>>>> effect, with each generation currently tending to be slightly more 
 > >>>>> left wing than the one before. That means that, although the older a 
 > >>>>> generation gets the more right wing, on average, it becomes, it 
 > >>>>> doesn't become quite as right wing as the one before it. 
 > >>>> 
 > >>>> Except, of course. for the Tory party. Remember the Heath days? When 
 it 
 > >>>> was simply right of centre. 
 > >> 
 > >>> i fear you don't know your right from your left...or vice versa 
 > >> 
 > >> Go on, then. Tell me where I've got it wrong. I take it you think Heath 
 > >> extreme, then? 
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >>> wings are not about whether you approve of nationalism 
 > >>>       or otherwise..that is just  local fad among cult socialists 
 > >> 
 > >> Did you actually read Colin's post that I was replying to? 
 > >> 
 > >> Nationalism isn't unique to any one party anyway. But the extreme right 
 > >> tends to attract the nutty side of it. 
 > > 
 > > Socialism is by defiinition internationalist.  That is not to say that 
 > > socialists shouldn't be patriotic and back there own country  in a 
 > > genuine dispute.  But, whatever it calls itself, a nationalist party is 
 > > *not* socialist but something else entirely. 
 > > 
 > > 
 > Rubbish 
  
 You say that because you use a crass, simplistic economic definition 
 socialism that would apply equally to a benevolent absolute monarchy or 
 even a caliphate. 
  
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 Roger Hayter 
  
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