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 From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com 
  
 "RJH"  wrote in message 
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 > On 13/10/2019 15:58, Brian Reay wrote: 
 >> Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>> In article , 
 >>>     Brian Reay  wrote: 
 >>>> Conversely the Snowflakes of this world are just waiting for a hand 
 >>>> out- 
 >>>> either from Corbyn or to inherit. The idea they have a responsibility 
 >>>> to 
 >>>> work and provide for their families etc is quite alien to them. 
 >>> 
 >>> I feel very sorry for you if you think anyone can have a decent 
 >>> lifestyle 
 >>> based on state handouts. It must mean you are extremely poor. 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> Read what I posted. 
 >> 
 >> That aside, it isn€€€t unusual to see cases reported of people claiming 
 >> benefits which would require a pre-tax income of over 30k, sometimes in 
 >> cases where they have been caught claiming benefits falsely. 
 >> 
 > 
 > That makes no sense to me. What sort of means tested benefit requires an 
 > income floor? 
 > 
 > 
 >> I€€€ve no problem with the idea of a proper welfare system. My issue is 
 >> with 
 >> those who abuse it and/or refuse to work. 
 >> 
 > 
 > How many people are entitled to benefits or direct state support - 20m? 
  
 Depends on whether you include child benefits which are almost universal 
 now. 
  
 > That tiny minority who do claim benefits and perhaps shouldn't 
  
 Its far from clear that it actually is a tiny minority. 
  
 > skews your entire world view. 
  
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