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  Msg # 31729 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:04  
  From: STEVE WALKER  
  To: NIGHTJAR  
  Subj: Re: Brexit deal almost agreed!  
 XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: steve@walker-family.me.uk 
  
 On 13/10/2019 12:18, nightjar wrote: 
 > On 12/10/2019 15:40, Stephen Cole wrote: 
 >> Dave Plowman (News)  wrote: 
 >>> In article , 
 >>> €€€€€€ Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers who've 
 >>>> seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>> 
 >>> Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> That€€€s no surprise as the electorate has changed; a million or more dead 
 >> Leave voters and a couple million freshly-minted teenage voters since 
 >> June 
 >> 2016. The longer that Brexit is fobbed off before a 2nd referendum the 
 >> more 
 >> the scales will tip toward Remain. 
 >> 
 > 
 > It is more complicated than that. 
 > 
 > As the population ages, it tends to get more right wing, so the ones 
 > that die off are replaced by others and the balance due to age remains 
 > much the same over time. OTOH, there is a generational effect, with each 
 > generation currently tending to be slightly more left wing than the one 
 > before. That means that, although the older a generation gets the more 
 > right wing, on average, it becomes, it doesn't become quite as right 
 > wing as the one before it. 
 > 
 > However, to add to all that, people with higher levels of education (A 
 > level or above) appear to be more likely to support remain and the 
 > overall level of education of the population is rising a few percent 
 > each year. 
  
 It is even harder than that. I voted leave, fully expecting us to suffer 
 for it in the short term, but for my children and their children to gain 
 from the freedom of being citizens of a country that can make its own 
 decisions. 
  
 > The net effect is that there will be a trend towards greater support for 
 > remain, but I'm not sure that 3-4 years is long enough for that to make 
 > a significant difference. 
 > 
 > Of greater influence are probably dissatisfaction with the mess that the 
 > Brexiteers have made of the process so far and a growing realisation of 
 > just how much of the Leave campaign was pure fantasy. 
  
 Even a lot of remainers seem to think that the mess is at least as much 
 due to remainer MPs working against leaving at all and many of the ones 
 I know think that we should get on with implementing the result of the 
 referendum and that failing to do so is highly damaging to the public's 
 trust in politicians in general. 
  
 SteveW 
  
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