XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: hex@unseen.ac.am 
  
 On 13/10/2019 17:16, Pamela wrote: 
 > On 13:49  13 Oct 2019, "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> In article <0001HW.23533798000B6E74700000BBC2EF@news.giganews.com>, 
 >>     Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 >>>> I see your mistake. You think the referendum was a football match 
 >>>> with winner takes all. In fact, the vote was more or less evenly 
 >>>> split and MPs will take that into account. 
 >> 
 >>> Ok, but not quite evenly split though, was it? 
 >> 
 >> No. It was approximately 1/3rd. 
 >> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> A second referendum will serve to show Parliament if the original 
 >>>> split has been preserved after voters have seen what Brexit really 
 >>>> looks like. 
 >> 
 >>> No one can see what Brexit looks like until they have experienced it. 
 >> 
 >> Which could be too late for many jobs based on free trade with the EU. 
 >> 
 >>> All we have, is what bullshitters tell us Brexit will be like. 
 >> 
 >> I certainly remember being told how easy it would be to get a new deal 
 >> with the EU giving us all we wanted. Since they need us more than we 
 >> need them. 
 >> 
 >>> If we are allowed a few years of Brexit and then have a referendum 
 >>> based on 'stay out' or 're-join', that would be sensible. But common 
 >>> sense is what the remain-filled UK establishment do not possess. 
 >> 
 >> The nest few years will be spend sorting out just what sort of deal we 
 >> end up with in detail. Any agreement now is simply a starting point. And 
 >> if we leave without one, those negotiations will simply take longer. A 
 >> lot longer. 
 > 
 > How true. 
 > 
 > In fact, for many leavers, Brexit has become an end it itself. 
 > 
 > Brexit serves no useful purpose.  However, fanatical leavers have nailed 
 > their colours to its mast and now insist we leave to satisfy their sense 
 > of pride. 
 > 
 > Boris's "Let's get Brexit done" is based on the totally false premise that 
 > it will be over when we leave. 
  
 It's actually drawing a line that will enable discussions on trade, 
 which you seem concerned about, actually to start.  We haven't had *any* 
 so far.  We can't until we have left. 
  
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