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 "nightjar"  wrote in message 
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 > On 13/10/2019 12:31, Brian Reay wrote: 
 > ... 
 >> Your model is a little simplistic. It isn€€€t just a question of age which 
 >> can change peoples€€€ views- you get old naive Socialists. 
 > 
 > I did try to make it clear that I was talking about trends in population, 
 > rather than individuals. There will always be some who are left wing or 
 > right wing all their lives. 
  
 But there isnt any real evidence of a general trend 
 towards more left wing attitudes over time in the 
 population, most obviously with Trump and what 
 was seen with Labour in the UK over time and with 
 Cameron before he resigned. 
  
 >> A more realistic model recognises that those who have worked hard, saved, 
 >> etc and generally achieved something tend to have some values and don€€€t 
 >> expect things to be handed to them on a plate. 
  
 > and some of those think it worthwhile to help others who didn't have the 
 > advantages they had. 
  
 Sure, but there have always been some of those 
 with charity most obviously. Its far from clear if 
 that has changed much over time now that the 
 state does it much more than it used to. 
  
 >> Conversely the Snowflakes of this world are just waiting for a hand out- 
 >> either from Corbyn or to inherit. The idea they have a responsibility to 
 >> work and provide for their families etc is quite alien to them. 
  
 > Odd then that so many unskilled workers, the precariously employed, 
  
 Not really given that the education system has 
 failed so many so badly in the sense of giving 
 them employable skills, for various reasons. 
  
 > pensioners and unemployed support right wing parties, such as UKIP and The 
 > Brexit Party. 
  
 Those are the same ones that vote for Trump 
 because they are so pissed off with what the 
 current pollys have failed to deliver for them. 
  
 Adolf got the same ones to vote for him, 
 those who decided that he couldn€€€t be 
 worse than the current crew. They 
 discovered that he was in fact much worse. 
  
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