XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: pamela.uklegal@gmail.com 
  
 On 19:07  13 Oct 2019, Norman Wells  wrote: 
  
 > On 13/10/2019 17:16, Pamela wrote: 
 >> On 13:49  13 Oct 2019, "Dave Plowman (News)"  
 >> wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> In article <0001HW.23533798000B6E74700000BBC2EF@news.giganews.com>, 
 >>>     Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 >>>>> I see your mistake. You think the referendum was a football match 
 >>>>> with winner takes all. In fact, the vote was more or less evenly 
 >>>>> split and MPs will take that into account. 
 >>> 
 >>>> Ok, but not quite evenly split though, was it? 
 >>> 
 >>> No. It was approximately 1/3rd. 
 >>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> A second referendum will serve to show Parliament if the original 
 >>>>> split has been preserved after voters have seen what Brexit really 
 >>>>> looks like. 
 >>> 
 >>>> No one can see what Brexit looks like until they have experienced it. 
 >>> 
 >>> Which could be too late for many jobs based on free trade with the EU. 
 >>> 
 >>>> All we have, is what bullshitters tell us Brexit will be like. 
 >>> 
 >>> I certainly remember being told how easy it would be to get a new deal 
 >>> with the EU giving us all we wanted. Since they need us more than we 
 >>> need them. 
 >>> 
 >>>> If we are allowed a few years of Brexit and then have a referendum 
 >>>> based on 'stay out' or 're-join', that would be sensible. But common 
 >>>> sense is what the remain-filled UK establishment do not possess. 
 >>> 
 >>> The nest few years will be spend sorting out just what sort of deal we 
 >>> end up with in detail. Any agreement now is simply a starting point. 
 >>> And if we leave without one, those negotiations will simply take 
 >>> longer. A lot longer. 
 >> 
 >> How true. 
 >> 
 >> In fact, for many leavers, Brexit has become an end it itself. 
 >> 
 >> Brexit serves no useful purpose.  However, fanatical leavers have 
 >> nailed their colours to its mast and now insist we leave to satisfy 
 >> their sense of pride. 
 >> 
 >> Boris's "Let's get Brexit done" is based on the totally false premise 
 >> that it will be over when we leave. 
 > 
 > It's actually drawing a line that will enable discussions on trade, 
 > which you seem concerned about, actually to start.  We haven't had *any* 
 > so far.  We can't until we have left. 
  
 What a mess. 
  
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