XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: abelard3@abelard.org 
  
 On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 13:53:04 +0100, JNugent  
 wrote: 
  
 >On 13/10/2019 05:33, Tim Streater wrote: 
 >> In article , JNugent 
 >>  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 12/10/2019 16:35, tim... wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
 >>>> news:5801d4258edave@davenoise.co.uk... 
 >>>>> In article , 
 >>>>> € Cursitor Doom  wrote: 
 >>>>>> I still have a legitimate interest, mate. And if there's another 
 >>>>>> Referendum I'll be voting in it again, same as before, just like 
 >>>>>> everyone else who voted Leave - plus not a few former Remainers who've 
 >>>>>> seen the light over the last 3 years. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Oddly, most the polls seem to show the opposite has happened. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> very marginally 
 >>>> 
 >>>> and to less than the extent that Remain was in the lead before the 
 >>>> last vote 
 >>>> 
 >>>> and you know what campaigning did to that lead. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> Wonder what the average UK voter feels about those who have fled the 
 >>>>> country to avoid paying taxes being allowed to vote? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I for one think that they've got a bloody cheek complaining about 
 >>>> being disenfranchised - they chose to be disenfranchised. 
 >>> 
 >>> That's not as straightforward as some people seem to think. 
 >>> 
 >>> An ex-pat Brit living in (say) Spain might have a vote in local 
 >>> elections in their area of residence, but unless they take pout 
 >>> Spanish citizenship they won't be allowed to vote in Spain's 
 >>> parliamantary elections (and quite right too). 
 >>> 
 >>> But unless they're allowed to vote in UK Parliamentary elections - for 
 >>> life - they are disenfranchised from having any say in the government 
 >>> of anywhere. And that cannot be right. They are not second-class 
 >>> people who should have fewer rights than others. 
 >> 
 >> Then let 'em take out Spanish citizenship. I lived in Switzerland 12 
 >> years and California 12 years. I didn't expect to have a vote in either 
 >> location. 
 > 
 >Not everyone who lives in Spain is necessarily entitled to Spanish 
 >citizenship. 
 > 
 >Spain isn't the UK (with its exceptionally lax controls on citizenship), 
 >after all. 
  
 spain is indeed another country...if you vote to leave 
     you risk imprisonment 
  
  
  
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