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  Msg # 31622 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 6:02  
  From: ROD SPEED  
  To: STEVE WALKER  
  Subj: Re: Tory conference and Tory lies  
 XPost: uk.radio.amateur, uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y 
 From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com 
  
 "Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
 news:qnte9g$kdf$2@dont-email.me... 
 > On 12/10/2019 21:14, Keema's Nan wrote: 
 >> On 12 Oct 2019, Steve Walker wrote 
 >> (in article ): 
 >> 
 >>> On 12/10/2019 14:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: 
 >>>> In article, 
 >>>> Steve Walker   wrote: 
 >>>>> On 11/10/2019 11:10, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: 
 >>>>>> In article, 
 >>>>>> JNugent   wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> Surely you don't think VED actually pays for road upkeep? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> The total collected in all car taxes including the tax on fuel 
 >>>>>>>> likely 
 >>>>>>>> does tho. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> ...by a factor of three at a minimum. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Then with that logic, the taxes collected from smoking should be ring 
 >>>>>> fenced for medical treatment of those smokers, and the same with 
 >>>>>> alcohol? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> No. The point isn't that motoring taxes shouldn't be spent elsewhere, 
 >>>>> it 
 >>>>> is simply the amount that is taken, often from people who can least 
 >>>>> afford it (running the oldest cars), when they have no real choice 
 >>>>> (other than quitting work). 
 >>>> 
 >>>> So give us your view on how taxes should be collected which would be 
 >>>> fair 
 >>>> to all? 
 >>> 
 >>> Simply not assuming that all motorists have money to spare andy more, 
 >> 
 >> They must have money to spare, or they would all be driving Fiat 500s. 
 > 
 > Many are driving old bangers that cost them a few hundred quid. They'd 
 > love to be driving more modern, more fuel efficient models, but they can't 
 > afford it. 
  
 I just thinking the other day that you don€€€t see many driving old 
 bombs anymore apart from the farmers with their wrecks of utes. 
  
 And very decent modern used cars don€€€t cost much at all anymore. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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