XPost: uk.politics.misc, uk.d-i-y, uk.radio.amateur 
 From: jenningsltd@fastmail.fm 
  
 On 13/10/2019 01:25, ZakJames wrote: 
 > 
 > 
 > "JNugent"  wrote in message 
 > news:h0f1n4F6md0U1@mid.individual.net... 
 >> On 12/10/2019 23:12, ZakJames wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> "Joe"  wrote in message 
 >>> news:20191012191042.2c873bc4@jresid.jretrading.com... 
 >>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 15:07:06 +0100 
 >>>> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Wonder what the average UK voter feels about those who have fled the 
 >>>>> country to avoid paying taxes being allowed to vote? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Not a problem is it? They're not receiving any public services, 
 >>> 
 >>> Plenty of them do, particularly the state pension and free health care. 
 >> 
 >> "Free health care"? You'd have to come back to the UK for that 
 > 
 > Nope, some places have mutual free health care agreements with the UK. 
 > Their citizens get to use the NHS for free and UK citizens get to use 
 > theirs for free. 
  
 In most of those countries, "for free" is a term of art. It involves 
 paying for some aspects of health care, including doctors' appointments. 
  
 Nowhere operates the NHS system (though sometimes, they leave a Brit off 
 the books to avoid paperwork). 
  
 >> (and there's nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned). 
 > 
 > More fool you if they have chosen to move to a tax haven to avoid 
 > paying what they would have paid if they had stayed in the UK. 
  
 I have no objection to contributing to a system for looking after the 
 health of my countrymen. I have every objection to paying to look after 
 the health of foreigners from countries which do not reciprocate. 
  
 >> Some countries -€€ relatively few - provide a service similar to the 
 >> NHS to UK citizens, but only because the UK does the same for their 
 >> citizens. The UK doesn't pay for it. 
 > 
 > The UK tax dodger citizen still gets free health 
 > care there the same as they would in the UK. 
  
 Living in the sunshine (an attractive proposition) is "tax-dodging", is it? 
  
 >>>> which is the only thing taxes are spent on, isn't it? 
 > 
 >>> Yep, and they get those. 
 > 
 >> How would you go about evading income tax on your UK Retirement 
 >> Pension and/or private pension? 
 > 
 > That income isnt taxed in the tax haven. 
  
 Should it be, when it is taxed at source (if it's enough to be taxed on)? 
  
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