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  Msg # 171 of 32054 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 4:30  
  From: INCUBUS  
  To: PAMELA  
  Subj: Re: Certainty of "No Deal" preferred to   
 XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: incubus9536612@gmail.com 
  
 On 2019-07-15, Pamela  wrote: 
 > On 14:05  15 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 2019-07-15, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>> On 10:10  15 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 2019-07-13, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>> On 14:12  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 2019-07-12, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> On 11:17  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> On 2019-07-12, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> On 09:58  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-11, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> On 15:08  11 Jul 2019, Incubus  
 >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> ... 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> Only €€3.5m had been drawn at the time of writing.  There are 
 >>>>>>>>>> conditions attached for further sums.  What makes you think that 
 >>>>>>>>>> this is a result of "Brexit"? 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> Whatever Aston Martin has received so far, it has scammed €€19m 
 >>>>>>>>> out of us taxpayers. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> It hasn't received €19m so certainly has not "scammed" that 
 >>>>>>>> amount. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Aston Martin has scammed a promise that gives it €€19 million 
 >>>>>>> which, on account of its public unacceptability, was kept secret. 
 >>>>>>> For shame. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Where is the "scam" in all this?  If you believe some dishonesty has 
 >>>>>> taken place then state it. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Giving Aston Martin a subsidy of €25,000 per worker was so 
 >>>>> embarassing that it had to be hidden from public record -- until the 
 >>>>> BBC made its Freedom Of Information request. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> That's a decision the government made and doesn't indicate that any 
 >>>> "scam" has taken place. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Is that €25,000 taken from the €3.5m they have received or from the 
 >>>> €19m the total of which they are yet to receive? 
 >>> 
 >>> It's €19 million given to that plant divided by the number of employees 
 >>> working there which is 750. 
 >> 
 >> But they have only received €3.5m to date so your figure is false. 
 > 
 > The agreement is for the British taxpayer to shells out a stonking €25,000 
 > per worker at Aston Martin. 
  
 If certain requirements are met.  Nothing close to that figure has been paid 
 out. 
  
 > Meanwhile the chief exec sees no cutback in 
 > his €3 million salary.  Snouts in the trough. 
  
 That may be so.  Still, 'tis a much smaller trough than the EU trough, since 
 we're suddenly complaining about troughs. 
  
 > Aston Martin don't even have as many as 750 workers there yet, so the cost 
 > per job is even more than €25,000. 
  
 Perhaps you should just quote the correct figures to begin with. 
  
 >>> Waste of taxpayers' money.  Done mostly in secret. 
 >> 
 >> Blame the Government for that.  It's hardly evidence of a "scam". 
 > 
 > It was done covertly and not fully announced even after the dirty deed. 
  
 Blame the Government.  Still no evidence of a "scam". 
  
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