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  Msg # 148 of 32022 on ZZUK4447, Monday 11-06-22, 4:30  
  From: PAMELA  
  To: INCUBUS  
  Subj: Re: Certainty of "No Deal" preferred to   
 XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: pamela.uklegal@gmail.com 
  
 On 09:46  16 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
  
 > On 2019-07-15, Pamela  wrote: 
 >> On 14:05  15 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 2019-07-15, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>> On 10:10  15 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On 2019-07-13, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>> On 14:12  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> On 2019-07-12, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> On 11:17  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-12, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> On 09:58  12 Jul 2019, Incubus  
 >>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-11, Pamela  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> On 15:08  11 Jul 2019, Incubus  
 >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> ... 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> Only €€3.5m had been drawn at the time of writing.  There are 
 >>>>>>>>>>> conditions attached for further sums.  What makes you think 
 >>>>>>>>>>> that this is a result of "Brexit"? 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> Whatever Aston Martin has received so far, it has scammed €€19m 
 >>>>>>>>>> out of us taxpayers. 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> It hasn't received €19m so certainly has not "scammed" that 
 >>>>>>>>> amount. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> Aston Martin has scammed a promise that gives it €€19 million 
 >>>>>>>> which, on account of its public unacceptability, was kept secret. 
 >>>>>>>> For shame. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Where is the "scam" in all this?  If you believe some dishonesty 
 >>>>>>> has taken place then state it. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Giving Aston Martin a subsidy of €25,000 per worker was so 
 >>>>>> embarassing that it had to be hidden from public record -- until 
 >>>>>> the BBC made its Freedom Of Information request. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> That's a decision the government made and doesn't indicate that any 
 >>>>> "scam" has taken place. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Is that €25,000 taken from the €3.5m they have received or from the 
 >>>>> €19m the total of which they are yet to receive? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> It's €19 million given to that plant divided by the number of 
 >>>> employees working there which is 750. 
 >>> 
 >>> But they have only received €3.5m to date so your figure is false. 
 >> 
 >> The agreement is for the British taxpayer to shells out a stonking 
 >> €25,000 per worker at Aston Martin. 
 > 
 > If certain requirements are met.  Nothing close to that figure has been 
 > paid out. 
  
 Do you not expect the full amount to be paid, for some reason? 
  
 >> Meanwhile the chief exec sees no cutback in 
 >> his €3 million salary.  Snouts in the trough. 
 > 
 > That may be so.  Still, 'tis a much smaller trough than the EU trough, 
 > since we're suddenly complaining about troughs. 
 > 
 >> Aston Martin don't even have as many as 750 workers there yet, so the 
 >> cost per job is even more than €25,000. 
 > 
 > Perhaps you should just quote the correct figures to begin with. 
  
 The subsidy figure which has been agreed is €18.8 million.  Call it €19 
 million.  Or do yuo expect this will not be paid? 
  
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