XPost: uk.politics.misc 
 From: pamela.uklegal@gmail.com 
  
 On 10:12  15 Jul 2019, Incubus  wrote: 
  
 > On 2019-07-13, Pamela  wrote: 
 >> On 11:07  13 Jul 2019, Keema's Nan  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On 13 Jul 2019, Pamela wrote 
 >>> (in article ): 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 08:40 13 Jul 2019, Ian Jackson 
 >>>> wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> > In message<0001HW.22D9288F002BB4A67000018152EF@news.giganews.com>, 
 >>>> > Keema's Nan   writes 
 >>>> > > On 12 Jul 2019, Ian Jackson wrote 
 >>>> > > (in article <+b$nYvBG9OKdFwZ1@brattleho.plus.com>): 
 >>>> > > 
 >>>> > > > In message, Pamela 
 >>>> > > >   writes 
 >>>> > > > 
 >>>> > > > > 
 >>>> > > > > Nor should our ambassador be allowed to resign almost 
 >>>> > > > > immediately because that causes considerable damage to 
 >>>> > > > > Britain's image. 
 >>>> > > > 
 >>>> > > > No. 
 >>>> > > > 
 >>>> > > > "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em 
 >>>> > > > Know when to walk away and know when to run" 
 >>>> > > 
 >>>> > > Do you really think Trump would make any kind of decent poker 
 >>>> > > player? If he had a bad hand he would throw a hissy fit, and if 
 >>>> > > anyone beat him, he would stick them on death row for crimes 
 >>>> > > against the president. 
 >>>> > > 
 >>>> > > Which all goes to prove we should have called his bluff. 
 >>>> > No. It's unlikely that Trump will ever say "Let's kiss and make 
 >>>> > up." When his private communications to the UK government were made 
 >>>> > public, Darroch's position became untenable, and his job 
 >>>> > impossible. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Trump respects those who stand up to him. 
 >>> 
 >>> Precisely, and walks all over those who back down. 
 >>> 
 >>> Notice how the sycophants are endlessly repeating the "Darroch's 
 >>> position became untenable, and his job impossible line, which will 
 >>> continue until they realise just how much they have been duped by a 
 >>> power mad nut job. 
 >>> 
 >>> Once they realise their mistake they will go deathly silent on the 
 >>> subject, and revert to the no-deal Brexit nonsense. 
 >> 
 >> The real danger comes from showing Trump how a few noisy tweets can 
 >> force the UK to remove its carefully selected ambassador within a mere 
 >> 72 hours.  Trump now knows the UK doesn't fight back when he gets 
 >> angry. 
 >> 
 >> We should have dragged this out for months, perhaps recalling Darroch, 
 >> and put up with Trump's petulance -- except that after Brexit we have 
 >> no other place to go than America. 
 >> 
 >> No other country in Europe would have rolled over so fast.  It's hard 
 >> to be proud to be British when Quislings run this country.  Thank you 
 >> for nothing, Boris. 
 > 
 > In which reality would his position have been tenable?  Certainly not 
 > this one. 
  
 That's the Norman Wells troll argument which he's repeated ad nauseam. 
  
 It involves saving face and not being seen to capitulate to Trump's 
 capricious whims, as well as our international standing.  It sets the 
 scene for future relations with the U.S. and the potentially unreasonable 
 demands Trump may make. 
  
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