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XPost: uk.politics.parliament, uk.politics, uk.media XPost: alt.politics.uk From: NY_Transfer_News@blythe.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [NYTr] US Leftists Bicker as Baghdad Burns https://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20050711/020133. html US Leftists Bicker While Baghdad Burns Bush and Blair are on the ropes, but not because of peace groups' marches! We're sending out a statement from David McReynolds (who distributed the position statement from United for Peace & Justice below) as well as the statement from the ANSWER Coalition and a statement supporting ANSWER from the American Muslim Society. The same stupid rivalry has cropped up at all large peace mobilizations since the first Gulf War in 1990. In the old days, this was called red-baiting. During the Vietnam War, it was aided and abetted by the FBI's COINTELPRO program, and we're sure they're hard at work helping to stoke the fires now. The fact that some so-called leaders of the US "peace movement" are helping them is shameful. As Bush I geared up for Gulf War I, Leslie Cagan's bunch, now called UFPJ, insisted, among other things, that a major anti-war demonstration include a denuciation of Saddam Hussein. The bickering resulted in much acrimony, wasted energy, and two separate demonstrations in Washington. Since then, UFPJ has engaged in other actions criticized by the Workers World-connected ANSWER coalition, such as going along with the Westside Highway "demo ghetto" at the Republican National Convention in New York when legal appeals for a Central Park permit were denied. UFPJ's approach has always been anti-radical. ANSWER, for its part, insists on including a variety of political issues in its demonstration against the Iraq war that some consider controversial and divisive, and that others believe will "dilute" the message of the upcoming Sept 24th mobilization. This time it's Palestine. Why the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and US support of the occupation of Palestine, should be *excluded* from the political agenda, when it is at the very root of so much Islamic anger may be puzzling, but it's the old problem of appeasing pro-Israel Zionists in the US peace movement. Both groups tend to use major mobilizations to build their own organizations, and that is exactly what this silly battle is about. Much Ado About Very Little We say a pox on both their houses, and beyond that we believe major demonstrations are no longer even effective. If millions marching around the world in March 2003 had no discernible impact, then this won't either. It's a waste of time, energy and lots of money and only succeeds in making the participants feel good. That money and energy could be better directed toward building new and more creative, yippier, pacifist methods of opposing the war that help to educate the US population about the reality of the Bush Crusades, the lies behind the wars, and that directly affect military recruitment and disrupt business as usual, aiming toward a general strike. No Business As Usual is the only thing that will stop this juggernaut. Waving signs and making speeches and shouting slogans in Washington, DC is useless, and only gives confirmation to the illusion that this ia free-speech a democracy. UFPJ is right on one point: The Bush regime is on the ropes. But that didn't happen because of demonstrations. It happened first, because of the Iraqi people are mounting a fierce resistance to the Bush-Blair occupation and second, because of the dedicated work by thousands of activists to expose the lies and deceptions of the Bush and Blair governments, and to force the mainstream news media to cover them. With that prelude, here are statements from McReynolds, UFPJ, ANSWER and the American Muslim Society, opposing the UFPJ position. If all this sectarian bickering saddens, sickens and bores you as it does us, read no further. We are not paying too much attention to this latest tempest in a teapot.-NY Transfer ~ *** sent by David McReynolds - July 15, 2005 This post from me is to address the complex issue of the role of ANSWER (mentioned in the body of this post from UFPJ). Historically, starting in 1956, a small segment of the US Trotskyist movement broke away to support the Soviet invasion of Hungary. (Workers World has subsequently supported the Soviet Union until its collapse, China even after the Tianmin massacre, North Korea, etc.) This is a very long time ago, but that break, which took the name "Workers World Party", consisted of very committed, very hard working radicals who, during the Vietnam War, chose not to be involved in the main coalition, but instead conducted separate demonstrations of their own (the main coalition including "everyone" from Catholics to Communists, Trotskyists to democratic socialists to Republicans, Jews, Protestants, trade unionists, academics, minority groups, etc.). During the first Gulf War , 1991, Workers World refused to join the main coalition and set up "International Action Center" (to which Ramsey Clark lent his name - in my personal view, very unwisely). There were two demonstrations in Washington on the eve of that war. While the Workers World demonstration was much smaller, it was still a good sized one for the middle of winter - perhaps ten thousand - and included good representation from the African American community. During the Second Gulf War the Workers World set up another front group, A.N.S.W.E.R., (and I'm sorry but I can't even find out from the A.N.S.W.E.R. web site just what the initials stand for). ANSWER has consistently set different dates or times for their demonstrations from those chosen by UFPJ - throughout this period there has never been any question that UFPJ was the vastly broader, larger group. ANSWER has tried to highlight differences by laying more stress on other issues (important in themselves) such as Haiti and Palestine. Then last year Workers World Party had a split. One group in WWP took over ANSWER, the other group took over the old International Action Center. I know so little about either group that aside from knowing they are small but very hard working I can't outline the differences. UFPJ has made repeated good faith efforts for joint actions but Workers World Party, continuing its policy since 1956, prefers to set up its own actions which it can fully control. I hope this background may be useful to friends in other countries, as well as to people here. Peace, David McReynolds ~ *** UFPJ - July 14, 2005 Sept. 24: Unity in the Streets [continued in next message] --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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