XPost: alt.abortion.inequity, alt.support.abortion, us.issues.abortion 
 XPost: soc.men, alt.health 
 From: Voter@Vote2016.com 
  
 Aborting a fetus in the first three months is not only 100% moral, but it is 
 immoral not to abort.  There is no brain in the fetus for the first three 
 months, 
 and no ghost either.  If you read people's stories of memories of being in 
 the 
 womb, they have real memories of being babies alive in the womb.  These same 
 people yet have memories of reincarnation - of being a Ghost and then being 
 in 
 the 
 womb for less than 9 months.  Of being in the womb probably no more than 
 five 
 months at most.  Read their stories.  _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost, 
 in 
 the 
 fetus, then not aborting is making a decision to get pregnant.  While 
 obviously 
 the day before the baby is born, it is just two people attached, but you 
 have a 
 right to detach your body, vs. an ethical requirement to throw someone a 
 rope. 
 Carrying a baby who eats your body for 6 months is more onerous than 
 throwing 
 someone a rope.  It is perhaps closer to jumping into an icy cold river to 
 save 
 someone.  Someone you don't want or know.  If you were on a 6 month trek 
 through 
 the wilderness, with only 2,000 calories per day to feed you, and you met a 
 starving person, would you starve _with_ them, eating 1,000 calories for the 
 rest 
 of your 6 month trek through the wilderness, to emerge skinny and weak, but 
 alive? 
 Would it be a crime not to feed them?  Carrying a baby is letting a baby eat 
 your 
 body.  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her?  Would that 
 be a 
 crime? You weren't born Siamese twins.  Your body is not theirs.  If you 
 went 
 through the Star Trek transporter and came out attached to someone, and they 
 were 
 using your kidney, and their kidney didn't make the transport, and there 
 was 6 
 months to wait for a kidney, would you stay attached to this stranger for 6 
 months 
 to let them live?  What if you both had guns, and you were like, we're going 
 to go 
 get detached, and they were like, no, we're not, and you were like, if you 
 kill 
 me, you'll die, but if I kill you, I'll live.  What if it was more than 6 
 months 
 to wait for a kidney, like 9 years?  What if you were in excruciating pain 
 that 
 could only be relieved by separation, but they would die?  What if you could 
 just 
 pull yourself off of them, and they would die, and you would live?  Would it 
 be a 
 crime to do so?  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her? 
 What 
 if 
 they could be detached from you, and re-attached to someone else to live? 
 Would 
 those people be like paid surrogates, and does a fetus thus get free health 
 care, 
 to bring all babies to life? 
  
 What if aliens land and lay eggs, which crawl in our feet, or we ingest 
 accidentally through fruit, and 3 foot by 8 inch caterpillars gestate in our 
 stomachs, accidentally for over 3 years, until they finally crawl out our 
 mouths, 
 and eventually turn into beautiful harmonic, human-sized butterflies who 
 teach 
 the 
 nations?   And these butterflies are more intelligent than humans, and 
 wholly 
 benevolent and helpful.  What if this accidental insemination happens 
 frequently. 
  
 What if aliens land, and just generally infect everyone's legs with their 
 young. 
  
 You can't abort a rapist's insemination any more than you can kill a 30 year 
 old 
 product of rape, if you can't kill a normal fetus.  A rapist's insemination 
 is 
 as 
 much a living person as a normal fetus is.  And yet you have a right to 
 separate 
 your body so far as I've suggested. 
  
 What if a Siamese twin kills?  Do they both go to prison?  Has this ever 
 happened? 
   Is the law not bunk, and is not self defense the solution?  Should we not 
 be 
 letting the chips fall where they may, and doing away with the law, to 
 replace 
 it 
 with an benevolent and helpful advocate which recognizes and promotes the 
 humanity 
 in all humankind? 
  
 _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost, in the fetus, then not aborting is 
 making a 
 decision to get pregnant.  There's no person living in you for at least the 
 first 
 three months.  If you don't abort, it's just like you decided to get 
 pregnant.  If 
 a sperm and an egg were sitting next to each other in a petri dish, and then 
 the 
 sperm impregnated the egg, would you believe, that was a human with a brain 
 and a 
 ghost?  Do you believe that you came out of a zygote?  Are you a 
 materialist, 
 atheist, deathist who believes only in the material world?  There is life 
 after 
 death.  There is life before life.  The ghost enters the fetus at various 
 times in 
 its development.  This begs the question, could a baby be born without a 
 ghost; 
 especially in Africa, where there are tons and tons of babies, and no one 
 would 
 want to be born in Africa.  But I imagine it would be born stillborn. 
  
 Unplanned childbirth is the scourge of nations.  Unplanned childbirth is the 
 cause 
 of overpopulation.  There are too many people for the property.  There is 
 not 
 enough capital for the labor.  Rather than a Holocaust as was caused by the 
 Great 
 Depression, the solution is to stop unplanned pregnancies.  The human race 
 is 
 an 
 animal like any other, that can kill off its habitat and resultingly die en 
 masse. 
   Like a Kuala Bear group that needs to be culled, but the solution is to 
 stop 
 unplanned pregnancy.   37% of American society is unplanned.  Babies born to 
 mother's who didn't plan them certainly face a life of likely greater 
 poverty 
 and 
 hardship.  Drug abusers certainly don't practice abstinence if they are 
 reckless 
 enough to abuse drugs.  People using needles, and injecting Heroin, get 
 pregnant 
 at 19.  The last thing they need is a baby.  The first thing they need is an 
 abortion.  This is not theoretical.  This is solid fact.  Only 40% of all 
 unplanned pregnancies, or nearly 1 million are happily terminated in 
 abortion. 
 Sadly, 60% of all unplanned pregnancies or 1.5 million, are not.  1.5 
 million 
 out 
 of 4 million babies born per year are unplanned.  This is 37%.  This is 
 outrageous.  This is certainly going to have a negative socio-economic 
 effect 
 on 
 our so-called civilization.  Half the unplanned pregnancies and childbirths, 
 occurred in people who used 1 type of birth control, but were not 
 responsible 
 enough to just use 2 or 3 types of birth control concurrently. The other 
 half 
 occurred in people who used no protection.  A sexually active couple will be 
 pregnant in 10 years on the pill, in 5-6 years using only condoms, and in 1 
 year 
  
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