XPost: nyc.announce, nyc.general, nyc.politics 
 XPost: nyc.transit 
 From: dunno@yahoo.com 
  
 Phil wrote: 
 > On 8 Sep 2006 14:53:49 -0700, "Peter T. Daniels" 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 > 
 >>Obwon wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>On 7 Sep 2006 10:38:33 -0700, "Peter T. Daniels" 
 >>> wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>>>Obwon wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>You wouldn't know it from talking to drivers, eh? 
 >>>>>"Road Rage", ring any bells?  Just the other day 
 >>>>>I pulled my bike into an empty parking space and 
 >>>>>prepared to dismount,  intending to go into a store 
 >>>>>just beyond the sidewalk there.  As I made to dismount, 
 >>>>>a van pulls up,  heads into the empty space,  and the 
 >>>>>driver immediately goes into hysterics,  throws an arm-waving, 
 >>>>>face distorting,  throat gurgleing fit,  because I'm blocking 
 >>>>>his way.  What in the world was his problem that he couldn't 
 >>>>>wait,  for even the few seconds it took me to get off the bike 
 >>>>>and haul it onto the sidewalk where I could lock it to a lamp post??? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Placing a bike (or a motorcycle) in a parking space is always 
 >>>>inappropriate. How could he tell from your behavior that you weren't 
 >>>>fixin' to leave it there? 
 >>> 
 >>>Because it was a bicycle,  no motor,  just pedals, which he 
 >>>could obviously see.   So he would know that I wasn't going 
 >>>to leave it there,  I was heading for the sidewalk to lock it to 
 >>>the meter. 
 >> 
 >>Then why not ride to the curb? or up onto the sidewalk? Whether to take 
 >>a parking space is a split-second decision, and your obstruction could 
 >>have had him driving around the neighborhood for half an hour. You said 
 >>you were "preparing to dismount" (whatever that means) in a parking 
 >>space. 
 >> 
 >>Bicyclists are probably the most thoughtless road-users in the city. 
 >>Just once, unfortunately, I watched a traffic(?) cop pull over cyclist 
 >>after cyclist that ran straight through a red light on (probably) 
 >>Seventh Ave. in the 20s. 
 > 
 > 
 > First you tell him to ride up on the sidewalk.  Then you comment how 
 > cyclists are thoughtless?  Do anyone see the irony with this? 
 > 
  
 The incident reminds me of the gentleman who was driving behind me as 
 I approached an "after stop right turn permitted on red" sign. 
 I made a full stop which was greeted by a demonstration of 
 his skill with his car horn.  After I made the turn, he very 
 slowly made the same turn.  I guess he finally noticed 
 the police officer in his ticket master van across the street. 
  
 > 
 > Phil 
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