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  Msg # 1088 of 1212 on ZZNY4444, Thursday 9-28-22, 4:11  
  From: OBWON@DODGIT.COM  
  To: DOGGLEBE@YAHOOOO.COM  
  Subj: Re: Phony "War on Xmas Trees" in the New  
 XPost: nyc.politics, nyc.general, nyc.events 
  
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:03:41 -0500, Phil 
  wrote: 
  
 >On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:47:55 GMT, "Freedom Fighter"  
 >wrote: 
 > 
 >>"Phil"  wrote in message 
 >>news:g85vk3tpu5sae4v7k49ptl1e6i68s7i8ej@4ax.com... 
 >>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:41:51 GMT, "Freedom Fighter"  
 >>> wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>We also have a Constitutional right to be free from the imposition of 
 >>>>others' beliefs and practices on ourselves. 
 >> 
 >>> We're talking about changing the name of the Christmas tree to the 
 >>> Holiday tree, just for the sake of being politically correct.  It's 
 >>> been called Christmas tree for centuries and, all of a sudden, it's 
 >>> wrong? 
 >> 
 >>You can call it whatever you wish. I think such decorated trees are 
 >>beautiful and desirable, but if they are financed by public funds or 
 erected 
 >>in a public place, it is a violation of our Constitutional separation of 
 >>church and state to officially endorse any religion by any means, which the 
 >>noun "Christmas" does. So have decorated trees around, they are beautiful, 
 >>but simply respect the right of non-Christians to not have their tax money 
 >>used to promote Christianity. 
 > 
 >I think, for the most part, they are funded by donations. 
 > 
 >Either way, calling it a holiday tree is a joke, though.  Everyone 
 >knows that it's a symbol of Christmas. 
 > 
 > 
 >Phil 
  
   What everyone "knows" and what it officially is 
 are supposed to be two different things,  that is 
 if you really support the idea of freedom of religion. 
 It cannot be officially paid for with gov't funds if 
 it is a Christmas tree.  That much is settled law, 
 whether or not you are aware of it! 
  
  But,  the gov't can use its funds to pay for 
 a holiday tree!  Whether or not you believe 
 in Christmas et al,  you do enjoy the holidays 
 they bring with them.  So a "Holiday Tree" it 
 is,  and that's the end of the matter! 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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