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| Subj: M I-5,Per secution , MI5 are A fraid to |
XPost: it.tlc.hardware.nokia, alt.sex.fetish.white-mommas, alt.smokers. cigars XPost: rec.aviation.ultralight MI5 are Afraid to Admit They're Behind. the Persecution MI5 have issued a formal denial of any involvement in my. life to the Security Service Tribunal, as you might expect them to;. but, more importantly, the persecutors have never denied that. theyre from the Security Service, despite. several years of accusations from my corner on usenet and in faxed articles. I am not surprised that the Security. Service Tribunal found "no determination in your. favour". I am however a little surprised that the persecutors. have refused to confirm my identification of them; by. doing so, they implicitly admit that my guess was right. "No determination in your favour" says the Security. Service Tribunal In 1997, I made a. complaint to the Security Service Tribunal, giving only the bare outlines of my case. I do not think it. would have made very much difference if. Id made a much more detailed complaint, since the Tribunal has no ability to perform investigatory functions. It can only ask MI5. if they have an interest in a subject, to which. MI5 are of course free to be "economical with the truth". A couple of. months after my complaint the Tribunal. replied that; The Security Service Tribunal have now. investigated your complaint and have asked. me to inform you that no determination in your favour has been made on. your complaint. Needless to say this reply. didnt surprise me in the slightest. It is a well established. fact that the secret service are a den of liars and the Tribunal a toothless watchdog, so. to see them conforming to these stereotypes might be disappointing. but unsurprising. It is noteworthy. that the Tribunal never gives the plaintiff information on whether the "no. determination in your favour" is because MI5 claims to have no interest in him, or whether they. claim their interest is "justified". In the 1997 report of the Security. Service Commissioner he writes that "The ambiguity of the terms. in which the notification of the Tribunals decision is expressed is. intentional", since a less ambiguous answer would. indicate to the plaintiff whether he were indeed under MI5 surveillance. But. I note that the ambiguity also allows MI5 to get away with lying to the question of their interest in. me; they can claim to the Tribunal that they have no interest, but at a future date, when it. becomes clear that they. did indeed place me under surveillance and harassment, they can claim. their interest was "justified" - and the Tribunal will presumably not admit that in their previous. reply MI5 claimed to have no interest. "He doesnt know who. we are" In early January 1996. I flew on a British Airways jet from London to Montreal; also present on the plane, about three or four. rows behind me, were. two young men, one of them fat and voluble, the other silent. It was quite clear. that these two had been planted on the aircraft to "wind me up". The fat youth described the town in Poland. where I had spent Christmas, and made some. unpleasant personal slurs against me. Most interestingly, he said. the words, "he doesnt know who we are". Now I find this particular form of. words very interesting, because while it is not a clear admission, it is only a. half-hearted attempt at denial of my guess that "they" = "MI5". Had. my guess been wrong, the fat youth would surely have said so more clearly.. What he was trying to do was to half-deny something he knew to be true, and he was limited to. making statements which he knew to be not false; so he made a. lukewarm denial which on the face of it means nothing, but in fact acts as a. confirmation of my guess. of who "they" are. On one. of the other occasions when I saw the persecutors in person, on the BA flight. to Toronto in June 1993, one of the group of four men said, "if he tries to run. away well find him". But the other three stayed totally quiet and avoided eye contact. They did so to avoid being. apprehended and identified - since if they were. identified, their employers would have been revealed, and it would become known that it. was the secret services who were. behind the persecution. Why are MI5. So Afraid to admit their involvement? If you think about. it, what has been going on in Britain for the last nine years. is simply beyond belief. The British declare themselves to be "decent" by definition, so. when they engage in indecent activities such as the. persecution of a mentally ill person, their decency "because were British" is still in the forefront. of their minds, and a process of mental doublethink kicks. in, where their antisocial and indecent activities are blamed on the victim "because its his fault were persecuting him",. and their self-regard and. self-image of decency remains untarnished. As remarked in another article some. time ago, this process is basically the same as a large number of Germans employed fifty. years ago against Slavic "untermenschen" and the Jewish "threat" - the. Germans declared, "Germans are known to be decent and. the minorities are at fault for what we do to them" - so they were able to retain the view of themselves as. being "decent". Now suppose this entire episode had happened in some other country.. The British have a poor view of the French, so lets say it had all happened. in France. Suppose there. was a Frenchman, of non-French extraction, who was targeted by the French internal security apparatus, for the. dubious amusement of French. television newscasters, and tortured for 9 years with various sexual. and other verbal abuse and taunts of "suicide". Suppose this all came out into the open. Naturally,. the French authorities would try hard to place. the blame on their victim - and in their own country, through the same. state-controlled media which the authorities employ as instruments of. torture, their view might prevail - but what on earth would people. overseas make of their actions? Where would their "decency" be then? This. is why MI5 are so afraid to admit theyre behind the persecution.. Because if they did admit responsibility, then they would be admitting that there was an action. against me - and if the truth came out, then the walls would come tumbling down. And if the persecutors. were to admit they were from MI5, then you. can be sure I would report the fact; and the persecutors support. would fall away, among the mass media as well as among the general public.. When I started identifying MI5 as the persecutors in 1995 and 1996 there. was a sharp reduction in media harassment, since people read my. internet newsgroup posts and knew I was telling the. truth. The persecutors cannot deny my claim that theyre MI5, because then I would report their denial and. they would be seen as liars - but they cannot admit. it either, as that would puncture their campaign [continued in next message] --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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