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  Msg # 72 of 32000 on ZZNY4443, Thursday 9-28-22, 2:39  
  From: OBWON  
  To: MASS DECEPTIONS  
  Subj: Re: DIRTY LIES WILL NEVER DIE. (1/2)  
 From: ob110ob@att.net 
  
 Well, it's notable that no one except Bush perceived a 
 real and immediate threat of attack based on...  What? 
 Ten year old anecdotes?  Good of you to post the BushCo 
 deceptions, it's quite notable that they were all 
 wrong! 
  
   Now what we need to know is what Bush felt was the 
 supportive current intelligence that allowed him to 
 make these statements he made!  He certainly needs more 
 than 10 year old anecdotes to sell the idea of a war! 
 That's for damned sure!   He refused to let the 
 Congress know what pages he was working from, 
 hopefully 10 year old anecdotes isn't all he has to 
 show as evidence he used to make the case for war! 
  
   Obwon 
  
 On 29 Jul 2004 22:59:38 GMT, massdeceptions@aol.com 
 (Mass Deceptions) wrote: 
  
 > 
 >The Most Mischievous Liars Are Those Who Keep 
 >Sliding on The Verge of Truth. 
 > 
 >"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for 
 >the production of biological weapons." -- President Bush, Sept. 12, 2002. 
 > 
 >"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of 
 >mass destruction." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002. 
 > 
 >. "The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. 
 >It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002. 
 > 
 >. "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet 
 >of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that would be used to disperse 
 >chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq 
 >is exploring ways of using the UAVs for missions targeting the United 
 >States." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002. 
 > 
 >. "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons 
 >program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear 
 >scientists, a group he calls his 'nuclear mujahideen' -- his nuclear holy 
 >warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at 
 >sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past."-- Bush, Oct. 
 >7, 2002. 
 > 
 >. "We know for a fact there are weapons there." -- White House spokesman Ari 
 >Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials 
 >to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." -- 
 >Bush, Jan. 28, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass 
 >destruction, is determined to make more." -- Secretary of State Colin 
 >Powell, Feb. 5, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that 
 >the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal 
 >weapons ever devised." -- Bush, March 17, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that 
 >Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical 
 >particularly." -- Fleischer, March 21, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass 
 >destruction." -- Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board, March 23, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and 
 >Baghdad." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003. 
 > 
 >. "We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." -- Bush, May 3, 
 >2003. 
 > 
 >======= 
 > 
 >   "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to 
 > develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That 
 > is our bottom line." 
 >   - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 
 > 
 >    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. 
 > We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass 
 > destruction program." 
 >    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 
 > 
 >    "Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a 
 > great deal here.  For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use 
 > nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the 
 > greatest security threat we face." 
 >    - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 
 > 
 >    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten 
 >times 
 > since 1983." 
 >    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 
 > 
 >    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the 
 > U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if 
 > appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond> 
 >effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass 
 > destruction programs." 
 >    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, 
 > John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 
 >     "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass 
 > destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he 
 > has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." 
 >    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 
 > 
 >    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass 
 > destruction and palaces for his cronies." 
 >    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 
 > 
 >    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons 
 > programs.  Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs 
 > continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status.  In addition, Saddam 
 > continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of 
 >a 
 > illicit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten 
 > the United States and our allies." 
 >    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and 
 > others, December 5, 2001 
 > 
 >    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a 
 > threat to the peace and stability of the region.  He has ignored the 
 > mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction 
 > and the means of delivering them." 
 >    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 
 > 
 >    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical 
 > weapons throughout his country." 
 >   - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 
 > 
 >    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to 
 > deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is 
 >in 
 > power." 
 >  - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 
 > 
 >    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and 
 > developing weapons of mass destruction." 
 >    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 
 > 
 >    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are 
 > confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and 
 > biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to 
 > build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.  Intelligence 
 > reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." 
 >    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 
 > 
 >    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the 
  
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