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  Msg # 31991 of 32000 on ZZNY4443, Thursday 9-28-22, 5:08  
  From: AJC  
  To: DEVIL  
  Subj: Re: Co-pilot error caused AA 587 crash  
 XPost: alt.disasters.aviation, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.travel.air 
 XPost: rec.travel.usa-canada 
 From: ajc@wxs.nl 
  
 On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:20:00 GMT, devil  wrote: 
  
 >On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:01:02 -0400, ouch wrote: 
 > 
 >> "Pete"  wrote in message 
 >>> 
 >>> Yeah, me too.  I assumed all Airbus aircraft employed FBW.  Mea 
 >>> culpa. 
 >>> 
 >>> But to start another flame war, maybe AA has a culture problem 
 >>> of ignoring manufacturers' advice.  Remember that it was an AA 
 >>> DC-10 that lost an engine at ORD, and AA's maintenance practice 
 >>> of removing engines with a forklift was the culprit, contrary to 
 >>> McDonnell Douglas' advice. 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> Pete 
 >> 
 >> Perhaps it's not coincidence that AA is responsible for both the deadliest 
 >> and the second deadliest airliner crashes in US history (DC-10 in Chicago, 
 >> A300 in NYC). 
 > 
 >I suspect the "culture problem" may not be too far off the mark.  It's a 
 >"we know best" thing.  A degree of arrogance perhaps? 
 > 
 > 
  
 And for what it's worth there is a very scary documentary of yet 
 another AA crash, an MD8X/9X I think, landing during a storm. Again 
 the culture prevailing at American Airlines was heavily criticized. 
 --==++AJC++==-- 
  
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