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  Msg # 31938 of 32000 on ZZNY4443, Thursday 9-28-22, 5:08  
  From: SCOTT M. KOZEL  
  To: ABSOLUTELYCERTAIN  
  Subj: Re: NTSB: Co-pilot error caused AA 587 c  
 XPost: alt.disasters.aviation, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.travel.air 
 XPost: rec.travel.usa-canada 
 From: kozelsm@attbi.com 
  
 "AbsolutelyCertain"  wrote: 
 > 
 > "Scott M. Kozel"  wrote 
 > > "AbsolutelyCertain"  wrote: 
 > > > "Scott M. Kozel"  wrote: 
 > > > > "AbsolutelyCertain"  wrote: 
 > > > > > "Scott M. Kozel"  wrote: 
 > > > > > > "AbsolutelyCertain"  wrote: 
 > > > > > > > "Scott M. Kozel"  wrote: 
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > So what is the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) response to 
 this 
 > > > > > > > > determination of probable cause? 
 > > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > > I'll bet a lot of pilots will take exception to this finding. 
 > > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > > Brilliant, Scotty!!!!!!!!!!  Your Ouija Board finally paid 
 off!! 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > Well, you aren't one, and I posted my question so that I could 
 hear the 
 > > > > > > opinions of the various pilots here. 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > I'm not what? 
 > > > > 
 > > > > A professional aircraft pilot. 
 > > > 
 > > > My Commercial Pilot Certificate was issued in 1966, and enabled me to 
 earn 
 > > > an interesting, albeit not luxurious, living for some time. 
 > > 
 > > Puh-leeze.  I've been reading your posts in alt.disasters.aviation since 
 > > 1998, and you never before made any claim about being a professional 
 > > aircraft pilot. 
 > 
 > Actually, I have told quite a few sea stories.  I've also mentioned that I 
 > instructed for ten years, flew freight, flew charters, flew ferries, the 
 > basic gypsy pilot's existence.  My pilot certificate is 1662849CFI.  The 
 CFI 
 > stands for Certified Flight Instructor.  I held an Advanced Ground 
 > Instructor ticket too, but I don't know if they issue anything like that 
 any 
 > more.  Taught a lot of ground school. 
  
 Uh-huh.  Funny that you list those in the past tense, as if they 
 happened a long time ago. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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