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  Msg # 278 of 32000 on ZZNY4443, Thursday 9-28-22, 5:10  
  From: OBWON  
  To: ESSMORGAN@CHARTER.JUNK.NE  
  Subj: Re: Co-pilot error caused AA 587 crash  
 XPost: alt.disasters.aviation, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.travel.air 
 XPost: rec.travel.usa-canada 
 From: ob110ob@aatt.net 
  
 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:57:46 -0400, "Morgans" 
  wrote: 
  
 > 
 >"Sylvia Else"  wrote 
 >> 
 >> Having systems that positively prevent the pilots from flying outside 
 >> the design envelope is a twin edged sword. On the one hand, it prevents 
 >> them breaking perfectly good aircraft. On the other, it also has the 
 >> potential to prevent them rescuing otherwise fatal situations. 
 >> 
 >> There have been incidents where airliners have been stressed well 
 >> beyound their design limits to recover from extreme upsets, and the 
 >> passengers and crew have survived to fly another day, even if the 
 >> aircraft had to be scrapped. 
 >> 
 >> Maybe you just need a big red "GO-FOR-BROKE" button for those cases 
 >> where flying according to the book is guaranteed to result in a 
 >> premature meeting with the ground. 
 >> 
 >> Sylvia. 
 >> 
 >Right.  Like making the rudder force required at the extreme travel go up to 
 >say, double.  Or shake the bejabbers out of the toes!  
  
   The hell you say...  don't you know that extra weight 
 means reduced profits? 
 How could you even suggest some crazy idea 
 like that.  Also...  about that go-for-broke-button??? 
 How much are you proposing it weigh?   
 Obwon 
  
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