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 From: invalid@invalid.com 
  
 Obviously, using the "Goetz Theory", we should both ignore and show 
 animosity toward Patrick Goetz, because he is simpleminded, and he probably 
 was not breast fed when he was/is a child. 
  
  
 "Mark T. Evert"  wrote in message 
 news:BTrOc.13781$Gk4.12663@fe1.texas.rr.com... 
 > 
 > "Fran Stine"  wrote in message 
 > news:2mtq2oFrgj0hU1@uni-berlin.de... 
 > > Comments on Lance Armstrong   by Patrick Goetz 
 > > Jul 16, 2004 06:52 PDT 
 > > 
 > > I don't recall denigrating or demeaning the accomplishments of Lance 
 > > Armstrong. What I said was: 
 > > 
 > > Fact: Lance Armstrong is a strong supporter of the Bush administration 
 > > Fact: The Bush administration is responsible for murder, mayhem, and 
 > > national bankruptcy. 
 > > Fact: This makes Armstrong a defacto supporter of the policies of the 
 Bush 
 > > administration; consequently 
 > > Fact: I personally find it morally questionable to support him. 
 > > 
 > > By supporting Bush, Armstrong lends credence to an administration that 
 is 
 > > creating extremely serious problems (455 billion dollar deficit this 
 year 
 > > alone, anyone? 700,000 million seriously pissed off Muslims?) that we're 
 > > going to be dealing with for years, if not decades to come. So, far be 
 it 
 > > from me to cast a shadow on Lance's accomplishments; I'm just not going 
 to 
 > > throw a party for the MF. 
 > > 
 > You know I'm not sure the extent of Armstrong's political involvement in 
 > terms of active campaigning etc..    I doubt that it is as involved as a 
 lot 
 > of Hollywood types and I would hope that he not use his success in cycling 
 > for political purposes although I see nothing wrong with merely stating 
 what 
 > his political preferences are. 
 > 
 > Having said that I think that what Mr. Goetz is saying that we should 
 ignore 
 > the accomplishments of people or show animosity towards them when they 
 have 
 > different poltiical preferences from us.    This is pretty simpleminded to 
 > say the least.      Personally I'm an Elton John fan....musically 
 > speaking...I never cared if he was gay or not....I really don't care who 
 he 
 > supports politcally.....I do get annoyed at some of his political 
 comments, 
 > but I try to keep that out of context with his music..... 
 > 
 > 
  
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