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  Msg # 641 of 663 on ZZNY4442, Thursday 9-28-22, 2:33  
  From: ANDREW DYCKE  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Dr. Alfred Kinsey, dedicated SCIENTIST o  
 XPost: me.politics, tn.general, neworleans.general 
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 From: adycke@gmail.com 
  
 The major motion picture "Kinsey", starring Liam Neesen and 
 Chris O'Donnell, opened on November 12th. It purports to be an 
 accurate portrayal of the life and work of Dr. Alfred Kinsey 
 (1894-1956), the famed sex researcher whose work has had an 
 incredible influence on attitudes toward sexual mores and 
 behavior. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com spoke about Kinsey, his work, and his 
 influence with Dr. Benjamin D. Wiker prior to the opening of the 
 movie. Dr. Wiker is co-author, with Dr. Donald De Marco, of 
 Architects of the Culture of Death (Ignatius Press, 2004) and a 
 Lecturer in Science and Theology at Franciscan University. He is 
 also the author of Moral Darwinism (InterVarsity). 
  
 WARNING: Some of the material discussed in this interview is not 
 suitable for younger readers. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: Who was Alfred Kinsey and what is he known 
 for? 
  
 Benjamin Wiker: Well, interestingly enough, who Alfred Kinsey 
 was and what he was known for are two very different things. 
 Let€s begin with the latter. Kinsey was known as the great 
 scientist of sex, the man who fearlessly and dispassionately 
 sorted out the true nature of our sexuality from the false, 
 unscientific beliefs that have for so long hidden the truth from 
 us. The standard picture of Kinsey depicted during his lifetime 
 was the dour scientist dressed in a lab coat, patiently sorting 
 through reams of data with his equally reputable and objective 
 coworkers. 
  
 That picture of Kinsey does not reveal who Kinsey really was, 
 however. In fact, such pictures were carefully staged by Kinsey 
 and his "research" team as part of their ongoing propaganda 
 campaign. Behind the scenes, we find the real Kinsey: a 
 homosexual and a sado-masochist, bent on using the trappings of 
 science to force his perversions upon society. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: Why do you think a movie would be made of 
 his life? Do you think there is a particular message or agenda 
 held by the makers of the film? 
  
 Wiker: We have just seen in the presidential election that the 
 culture is seriously divided. Part of the culture has been 
 pushing pro-homosexual, sexual freedom agenda. No one doubts 
 where Hollywood lines up on these issues. They have been using 
 their immense resources for some time, along with the other 
 liberal-dominated media, to compel Americans to accept every 
 sexual deviation as natural and good. Of course, in doing so, 
 they were only following Kinsey€s lead, and so we should not be 
 surprised that they would make a movie lionizing Kinsey as their 
 prophet and martyr. 
  
 We can expect the message of the movie to be something like 
 this: Kinsey the persecuted homosexual fights fearlessly to 
 throw off the chains of sexual repression, but dies a kind of 
 martyr who selflessly sacrificed himself for those who would 
 come after. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: What was the relationship between Kinsey's 
 private life and his influential studies? 
  
 Wiker: The sole purpose of Kinsey€s various studies was to 
 legitimate any and every kind of sexual activity, from adultery 
 and homosexuality, to pedophilia and bestiality. Kinsey himself 
 was, from his very early youth, a sado-masochistic homosexual. 
 His father, Alfred Sr., was a staunch, no-nonsense Protestant 
 who ran the household with an iron fist. Of course, young Alfred 
 hid his sexual perversions from his father, and the 
 contradiction between his outward moral uprightness and his 
 inward, hidden sexual distortions caused him great anxiety. But 
 by the time he went to graduate school, Kinsey was determined to 
 use science to eliminate this anxiety. How? By eliminating the 
 distinction between natural and unnatural in regard to 
 sexuality. He wanted to use science to "prove" that every sexual 
 desire, no matter how bizarre, is natural. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: What have been some of the more serious 
 charges brought against Kinsey's research, methodologies, and 
 goals? 
  
 Wiker: To take up on the last point, Kinsey began with the 
 belief that every sexual desire is natural, and that it is only 
 society that labels things like adultery, homosexuality, 
 pedophilia, and bestiality as unnatural. Therefore, he would 
 gather "sexual data" precisely from those people who engaged in 
 such practices. For example, rather than gather data from the 
 population at large, Kinsey preferred to interview prison sex 
 offenders. This method would be akin to interviewing convicted 
 thieves on what they think of private property, or serial 
 killers about the sanctity of life. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: In the trailer for "Kinsey" the researcher 
 is shown saying to an unseen research subject: "I've learned 
 that the gap between what we assume people do sexually and what 
 they actually do is enormous." Does this reflect the findings of 
 objective research or Kinsey's personal bias? 
  
 Wiker: First and foremost, Kinsey€s personal bias. As biographer 
 James Jones points out, Kinsey long believed that human beings 
 were naturally "pansexual," that is, they had no natural 
 goal€such as heterosexuality€but if left to themselves in a kind 
 of state of nature would satisfy their sexual desires in 
 whatever way happened to strike their fancies. Society restricts 
 this natural pansexuality, causing individuals all kinds of 
 anxiety. Kinsey therefore believed that while we assume that 
 people follow society€s sexual rules, they secretly want to act 
 upon their natural pansexuality, and very often do. This 
 deviation from social sexual rules€be it in adultery or 
 homosexuality€is really not a deviation at all, but our natural, 
 pansexuality reasserting itself. 
  
 Kinsey€s mode of argument was then quite simple, and the logic 
 of it went something like this: we assume that X is abnormal; 
 but we have found out that X occurs all the time; what occurs 
 all the time cannot be abnormal, therefore it must really be 
 normal; what is normal is also natural, and what is natural 
 cannot be wrong. 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: In another scene in the trailer, a 
 character (apparently sympathetic to Kinsey's work) exclaims, 
 "The enforcers of chastity are massing once again." How might 
 the movie try to make connections between the 1940s/50s and 
 modern day conflicts over sexual mores? 
  
 Wiker: We€ve all seen the recent surge to sanction gay marriage. 
 Kinsey is an especially useful figure to support this effort. He 
 has the status of a venerable scientist; he can be promoted as a 
 martyr. And the lesson Hollywood wants us to draw is quite 
 simple: the "enforcers of chastity" belong to the forces of 
 darkness. How long, O how long, must they rule over us 
 (sympathetic violins playing in the background). 
  
 IgnatiusInsight.com: A preview review of the movie on the MSNBC 
 site states: "For a movie so frank and explicit, 'Kinsey' has a 
 soft spirit. Violins swell. The warmth of the Kinsey's 
 unconventional marriage shines through. It's easy to imagine an 
 edgier movie, but 'Kinsey' is a celebration of diversity; it's 
 about the solace knowledge can bring." How does that compare 
  
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