XPost: alt.conspiracy, ba.general, la.general 
 XPost: soc.culture.jewish 
 From: reniggade@anglicam.org 
  
 On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman 
  wrote: 
  
 >The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe (reniggade@anglicam.org) wrote: 
 >: On 5 Aug 2003 01:48:26 -0700, jameskilner@iee.org (James Kilner) 
 >: wrote: 
 > 
 >... 
 > 
 >: >Most Jews who go to Israel from England/America will speak either 
 >: >English or Hebrew while they are there.  All of the signage in Israel 
 >: >is in Hebrew/English/Arabic, the official language of the country is 
 >: >Hebrew.  What more proof do you want that all Jews do not speak 
 >: >Yiddish? 
 > 
 >: You call this unsupported assertion "proof"? 
 > 
 >     It's a lot more supported than most of your blatant assertions. 
  
 What's it supported by, then?  A handful of unreputable jew websites? 
  
 >: >> >You have accidentally stumbled on a portion of the truth.  You 
 >: >> >must be as surprised as I.  And thus, for this and other reasons, 
 >: >> >such as intermarriage and the lessening of the threat of 
 >: >> >pogroms, expulsions, etc., 
 >: >> 
 >: >> Eh?  The threat is growing not lessening.  Expulsions are increasing. 
 >: > 
 >: >And yet you cannot prove that there has been a single expulsion of a 
 >: >Jew in 2003. 
 > 
 >: There have in fact been many.  Do you really think people emigrate to 
 >: a shitty little country like 'Israel' voluntarily? 
 > 
 >     But you have stated that Jews love Israel. 
  
 Oh, they do indeed.  And the further away from it they live (like you) 
 the more they love it.  In fact, to put it in terms you can 
 understand, the love of 'Israel' is proportional to the square of the 
 distance away from it.  There are far more jews in the diaspora than 
 in 'Israel', which kind of defeats the whole point of the exercise. 
  
 >And if any Jews had 
 >to deal with too many people like you in their countries of birth, 
 >it is easy to see why they might prefer to emigrate to Israel. 
  
 Emigrations to 'Israel' are either expulsions from diaspora host 
 countries or flights from prosecution.  'Israel' will not extradite a 
 jew.  It is the refuge of last resort for those who get caught with 
 their hands in the till. 
  
 > ... 
 > 
 >: >> >: >: If it ever happens, the laws of the Roman Catholic Church do not 
 allow 
 >: >> >: >: priests to speak to each other in Latin.  This is simply a 
 (reasonable 
 >: >> >: >: enough) precaution against accusations of conspiracy and the 
 like. 
 >: >> >: > 
 >: >> >: >    Cite? 
 >: >> 
 >: >> >: It's an unwritten law. 
 >: >> > 
 >: >> >     LOL!   Can you find an unwritten reference to this unwritten 
 >: >> >law? 
 >: >> 
 >: >> Yes, but because it's unwritten I can't give it to you. 
 >: > 
 >: >So you admit you make things up now! 
 > 
 >: Unwritten laws are not "made up".  They are simply, well, unwritten. 
 > 
 >     But they are not unreferenced. 
  
 In fact, the restriction on the use of spoken Latin is handed down by 
 word of mouth.  There is no need for it to be referenced. 
  
 > The "British" Constitution is 
 >unwritten, but I can find many references to it.  It is only the 
 >Constitution itself that is unwritten; textbooks in "British" law 
 >schools and court documents in "Britain" reference it extensively. 
  
 See above. 
  
 >: >> >     It's an unwritten law that you are an idiot and all your 
 >: >> >claims of Jewish congenital criminality are false. 
 >: >> 
 >: >> You're just an uneducated moron who doesn't understand unwritten laws. 
 >: > 
 >: >Better to be an uneducated moron than a pathological liar. 
 > 
 >: Jews are pathological liars, cheats and fraudsters.  You can't be more 
 >: disadvantaged than that.  My sympathies. 
 > 
 >     That statement passes for proof.  You can't be more disadvantaged 
 >than that.  My sympathies. 
  
 Save your sympathy for all the jews who are about to be expelled from 
 their host countries.  Yourself included. 
 > ... 
 > 
 >: Everything I publish here is fact.  Nobody has yet managed to disprove 
 >: anything I've written. 
 > 
 >     Just about everything you say has been completely disproven. 
 >You simply ignore or dismiss the proofs...which do not lessen their 
 >validity. 
  
 Your so-called "proofs" are nothing of the sort. 
  
 > 
 >: >You're the one making the assertion that all Jews speak Yiddish, it 
 >: >rests upon you to prove that assertion! 
 > 
 >: Do you need proof that the sun shines too? 
 > 
 >     No, but I need proof that all Jews speak Yiddish.  You and I have 
 >seen the sun shine; in fact what it does is shine, by definition. 
  
 The definition of the sun is that it shines??? 
  
 >There is only one sun, and we have seen it shining. 
  
 There are many suns.  Too many to count, in fact. 
  
 >You have not met 
 >more than a small fraction of the Jews in the world, and you have not 
 >heard even all those you have met speak Yiddish.  (And, not so 
 >incidentally, you don't know Yiddish when you hear it, as you state 
 >...I almost said believe...that the language of the Israeli Knesset 
 >is Yiddish.)  Therefore you have no basis for saying that all Jews 
 >speak Yiddish...unless you do it the same was as sunshine, i.e., 
 >define what all Jews speak to be Yiddish. 
  
 What a bizarre reinterpretation! 
  
 >: >> >: >: >: I am merely extrapolating my own observations. 
 >: >> >: >: > 
 >: >> >: >: >     From ten people to millions.  And of course I question the 
 >: >> >: >: >ten. 
 >: >> 
 >: >> >: >: Far more than ten.  Why do you question the ten? 
 >: >> >: >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 >: >> >: >     How many more than ten? 
 >: >> 
 >: >> >: Far more. 
 >: >> > 
 >: >> >     You refused to challenge it before.  At this point you will 
 >: >> >only say "ten is wrong," you won't state what is right. 
 >: >> 
 >: >> That's correct. 
 >: > 
 >: >Because if you ever did make a statement about what you actually 
 >: >meant, we'd have ample proof of your lies. 
 > 
 >: The fact that I'm unprepared to put a number to it means no such 
 >: thing. 
 > 
 >     It doesn't prove that your are wrong, it only proves that you 
 >have no logical basis for what you say. 
  
 Not in the least.  It means only that I'm not prepared to get into a 
 numbers game with you. 
  
 >... 
 > 
 >: >> Don't get bored too quickly.   I'll tell you when you're allowed to 
 >: >> leave. 
 >: > 
 >: >But you are soooooooooooooo boring. 
 > 
 >: Who invited you to this thread anyway?  Dorfman is the jew who has 
 >: been assigned the task of  responding to me. 
 > 
 >     It's a public newsgroup.  And it is I who assigned you. 
  
 No it isn't.  You were assigned to the "Name the jew" thread.  Kilner 
 has been assigned to two separate threads.  Can't you people keep to 
 your respective threads without pushing and shoving?  Behave, will 
 you! 
 . 
 >: >> >: >: >     Can you name one of them? 
 >: >> 
 >: >> >: >: Yes. 
 >: >> >: > 
 >: >> >: >     I'm waiting. 
 >: >> 
 >: >> >: For what?  For your own expulsion?   It shouldn't be long now. 
 >: >> > 
 >: >> >     For you to name one.  You can't. 
 >: >> 
 >: >> I've already explained that elsewhere.  In fact, you have named 
 >: >> several yourself. 
 >: > 
 >: >I think you'll find he made up the names. 
 > 
 >: He just thinks he did.  In fact the names he came up with do in fact 
 >: correspond to several expelled jews.   But perhaps that's because 
  
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