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  Msg # 33 of 32001 on ZZNY4436, Thursday 9-28-22, 8:58  
  From: STAN DE SD  
  To: JEFF NORTH  
  Subj: Re: Queer Documentary in the Making  
 XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.california 
 From: standesd@earthlink.net 
  
 "Jeff North"  wrote in message 
 news:q6a1jv8u7vg71nq0dd0cnfnmqn81fpi5v7@4ax.com... 
 > On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:55:22 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "Stan 
 > de SD"  wrote: 
 > 
 > >| 
 > >| "Jeff North"  wrote in message 
 > >| news:r4dvivciagdkckkpkj8u45csm048fa185q@4ax.com... 
 > >| > On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:59:49 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality Lazer 
 > >| > Sharp wrote: 
 > >| > 
 > >| > >| On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 09:19:20 GMT, Ward Stewart 
 > >| > >|  wrote: 
 > >| > >| 
 > >| > >| >On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:40:49 GMT, "Stan de SD" 
 > >| > >| > wrote: 
 > >| > >| > 
 > >| > >| >> 
 > >| > >| >> wrote in message 
 > >| > >| >>news:691e612a4442a03cb79256938e5af969@free.teranews.com... 
 > >| > >| >>> 
 > >| > >| >>> Even if homosexuals win the right to same-sex marriage, they 
 will 
 > >| > >| >>> continue to seek multiple partnerships. Homosexual Andrew 
 Sullivan 
 > >| is 
 > >| > >| >>> the senior editor at The New Republic. In his book, Virtually 
 > >| Normal, 
 > >| > >| >>> Sullivan says that straight society will learn a lot from 
 > >| homosexual 
 > >| > >| >>> marriages if they are legalized. He notes that straights will 
 learn 
 > >| to 
 > >| > >| >>> have a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital 
 outlets 
 > >| > >| >>> between two men than between a man and a woman." In other 
 words, 
 > >| > >| >>> homosexuals have no intention of remaining monogamous to each 
 > >| other. 
 > >| > >| >>> Sullivan criticizes what he calls the "stifling model of 
 > >| heterosexual 
 > >| > >| >>> normality." 
 > >| > >| >>> 
 > >| > >| >>> Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile has openly called 
 for 
 > >| the 
 > >| > >| >>> abolition of marriage and family as we know it. According to 
 > >| > >| >>> Signorile, writing in Out magazine, homosexuals should "fight 
 for 
 > >| > >| >>> same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, 
 redefine 
 > >| > >| >>> the institution of marriage completely. . . . to debunk the 
 myth 
 > >| and 
 > >| > >| >>> radically alter an archaic institution. . . . The most 
 subversive 
 > >| > >| >>> action lesbians and gays can undertake--and one that would 
 perhaps 
 > >| > >| >>> benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of 'family' 
 > >| > >| >>> entirely." 
 > >| > >| >> 
 > >| > >| >>In other words, militant queers want it both ways - they want 
 > >| "inclusion" 
 > >| > >| >>into the same social institutions they are hell-bent on 
 destroying. 
 > >| They 
 > >| > >| >>sound just like the malcontent teenager who says he really 
 doesn't 
 > >| want to 
 > >| > >| >>go to the party, but wants an invitation so badly merely so he 
 can 
 > >| disrupt 
 > >| > >| >>it. :O| 
 > >| > >| >> 
 > >| > >| >Dim witted and nasty too -- a poisonous combination. 
 > >| > >| > 
 > >| > >| >Is it that you imagine that ALL Gays must have the SAME opinions? 
 > >| > >| >Michael Signorile and I (for instance) have entirely divergent 
 views 
 > >| > >| >in the matter of marriage. 
 > >| > >| 
 > >| > >| Regardless your views, homosexuals in general are inherently 
 > >| > >| promiscuous. That fact has been demonstrated many, many time. 
 > >| > 
 > >| > ...and there is no such person as a promiscuous heterosexual? 
 > >| 
 > >| Promiscuous heterosexuals aren't out there actively trying to "debunk" 
 or 
 > >| "radically alter" institutions to force others to accept them. 
 > 
 > Why should they? They have ready access to the institutions (and look 
 > what they are doing to them - just look at the divorce rate, the level 
 > of adultery etc). 
  
 Yet it's their institution, not yours. Go start your own institution if you 
 don't like it. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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