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  Msg # 31894 of 32001 on ZZNY4436, Thursday 9-28-22, 11:26  
  From: MORF  
  To: STEVE FURBISH  
  Subj: Re: PBA: Don't ticket cops (1/2)  
 XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, alt.true-crime 
 From: central222@hotmail.com 
  
 Steve Furbish wrote: 
 > 
 > "Morf"  wrote in message 
 > news:407ED1CC.55F@hotmail.com... 
 > 
 > > Typically, you choose the unconstitutional method of denial of 
 > > complaints based on arrest status. 
 > 
 > Typically, I understand that you wouldn't recognize something as 
 > "Constitutional" if the entire supreme court bit you on the ass. 
  
  
 According to you the right to equal treatment under the law is nullified 
 whenever 
 you cops accuse them of a crime. 
  
 I don't see you denying it, just attacking me. 
  
 You post that you are ignorant, and attack those who know. 
  
 What a brilliant way to win an argument. 
  
 > > > Not all people subscribe to the theory that the best 
 > > > defense is a good offense, but I doubt that few who read this thread 
 > have 
 > > > never seen an example of that tact in practice? In fact, the more 
 > familiar 
 > > > an individual is with the term "plea bargain" the more likely they 
 might 
 > be 
 > > > to want a few extra chips in their pocket come court day. 
 > > 
 > > Plea bargains are blackmail. 
 > 
 > Cops don't like 'em much either. You point? 
  
 Cops use plea bargains for blackmail. 
  
 Cops don't hate plea bargains, they hate DAs that give plea bargains. 
  
 > > > They're not - if we're talking about criminal acts. Cops  get trials by 
 > jury 
 > > > just like everyone else. 
 > > 
 > > We aren't and you know it. The cops never get a trial because morons 
 > > like you won't 
 > > arrest them unless the complainant is a saint with absolute proof. 
 > 
 > You're talkin out yer ass again son. 
  
 I speak from first hand experience. 
  
 You attempt to answer everything with dismissal as bullshit. 
  
 > > Even then, cops will blackmail and intimidate their way out of these 
 > > complaints too. 
 > 
 > Would that be all cops or just those in your vivid imagination? 
  
 Wow, attempting to win the argument by changing it to an argument about 
 "all cops." 
  
 You get lamer by the minute. 
  
 > > Cops don't have an axe to grind? 
 > 
 > For the most part - nope. 
  
 So, somewhere less than 50% of them do? 
  
 Are they the same ones who rape, murder, steal, distribute drugs, 
 violate rights, 
 molest children, run jewel theft rings, plant evidence and frame people? 
  
 > > You are incredibly ignorant. 
 > 
 > Thanks. I think you are a POS too. 
  
 Your hatred is showing. 
  
 I called you ignorant because you have no data. 
  
 > > >You want minor beefs handled like major crimes, all the while 
 > > > knowing that can't happen in any type of forum that is fair to both 
 > sides of 
 > > > the issue. 
 > > 
 > > I want all complaints handled exactly the same without prejudice.(your 
 > > beliefs that cops are being accused simply for doing theiir jobs) 
 > 
 > My beliefs - just like yours - have nothing to do with the way things are 
 or 
 > are likely to be in the immediate future. 
  
 Mine do. I make changes. You live in perpetual denial. 
  
 > > > If it were the ambition of all cops to step outside the law to punish 
 > all 
 > > > dirtbags, you'd never see the light of day. 
 > > 
 > > Now you argue that I claim all cops. 
 > 
 > Omitting the word does not mask the sentiment. 
  
 The sentiment is that cops "do"in fact step outside the law to punish 
 what they consider dirtbags, just like you consider me a dirtbag, 
 deserving 
 of police attitude adjustment by brutal treatment or imprisonment. 
  
 > > Many people are in prison for daring to complain about cops. 
 > > 
 > > Many are released every year when the fake evidence is uncovered. 
 > 
 > and SOME are released after their meds are adjusted, right? 
  
 And some cops are sitting in prison. 
  
 > > >The fact of the matter is, 
 > > > however, most cops try to do an honest job. 
 > > 
 > > Cops doing an honest job has no bearing on why cops dismiss complaints 
 > > against  cops but arrest non cops on identical complaints every day. 
 > 
 > Do you even proof read the shit you post? 
  
 I can't seem to dumb down my words to your level, idiot. 
  
 > > You are the ignorant defender of accused cops, not me. 
 > 
 > Of course. I thought we'd decided that your position was more that of a 
 > know-nothing malcontent? 
  
 "We"?  You speaking for all cops or just Multiple personalities? 
  
 > > > I'm trying to think of one good (or even one not-so-good) reason for a 
 > cop 
 > > > to falsely accuse an innocent person of a crime (or a traffic 
 violation, 
 > if 
 > > > we want to stay on topic)? I can't come up with one. The inverse, 
 > however, 
 > > > is glaringly not true. 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Bullshit. Cops plant evidence, and frame people wholesale. 
 > > 
 > > I guess these cops that are caught just do it for kicks? 
 > > 
 > > Cops arrest families and friends to force their target into submission. 
 > 
 > I think the term for your condition is "delusions of persecution"? 
  
 Others thought that. 
  
 Send them an email, oh wait, they don't get email in prison. 
  
 > > That's how I became a copwatcher, genius. 
 > > 
 > > I speak from first hand experience. 
 > 
 > Right...... and what was your tale of woe again? Oh yeah, you can't say can 
 > you? Not without tossing out your most recent illusions of anonymity. 
  
 A member of my family(in-law)was forced to work for dirty cops. 
  
 I attempted to help him escape their control. 
  
 I was arrested on behalf of the cop, but the charges were dropped, 
 after I was sent for psychiatric evaluation because the cops were 
 attempting to discredit my words, just as you do. 
  
 I contacted the FBI and gave much information including the cell phone 
 number 
 and pager number of the drug dealing cop that was threatening me and my 
 family. 
  
 I also contacted the state police and told them of the police threats. 
  
 A full blown Federal investigation was initiated of the entire 
 department and 
 the cop who had targeted me was sent to prison for distributing drugs, 
 based on 
 a wiretap conversation where by was heard by the FBI warning his drug 
 house that 
 the FBI was watching them, from outside in a van. 
  
 The results of the department wide investigation are due to be released 
 very soon. 
  
 Over 5 percent of the department went to prison. 
  
 One cop killed himself as the investigation focused on him. 
  
 My family member will be eligible for parole in 2012. 
  
 The cops set him up for giving up the cell phone numbers and giving 
 statements 
 to the FBI. 
  
 Now, every police cruiser has digital state of the art video recording 
 devices 
 that record everything that occurs while the red light are activated, 
 including 
 the cops conversations. 
  
 Cases have been thrown out because the judge refused to believe the 
 cops. 
  
 The city faces bankruptcy in the next two months from the outrageous 
 police costs, 
 (over one third of all taxes) and the city's employees will stop being 
 paid soon. 
  
 Today is the day they bury one of the cops of the same department, who 
 killed himself 
 responding to a call who raced through an "s" turn through a tunnel and 
 swerved to miss 
 oncoming traffic, crashing and dying on the roadside. 
  
  
 [continued in next message] 
  
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