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  Msg # 31886 of 32001 on ZZNY4436, Thursday 9-28-22, 11:26  
  From: STEVE FURBISH  
  To: MORF  
  Subj: Re: PBA: Don't ticket cops (1/2)  
 XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.thebird.copwatch, alt.true-crime 
 From: sfurbish@hotpop.com 
  
 "Morf"  wrote in message 
 news:407FD3C5.789D@hotmail.com... 
 > Steve Furbish wrote: 
 > > 
 > > "Morf"  wrote in message 
 > > news:407ED1CC.55F@hotmail.com... 
 > > 
 > > > Typically, you choose the unconstitutional method of denial of 
 > > > complaints based on arrest status. 
 > > 
 > > Typically, I understand that you wouldn't recognize something as 
 > > "Constitutional" if the entire supreme court bit you on the ass. 
 > 
 > 
 > According to you the right to equal treatment under the law is nullified 
 > whenever 
 > you cops accuse them of a crime. 
 > 
 > I don't see you denying it, just attacking me. 
  
 I won't joust with your straw arguments. 
  
 > You post that you are ignorant, and attack those who know. 
  
 Surely you are not referring to yourself? 
  
 > > > Plea bargains are blackmail. 
 > > 
 > > Cops don't like 'em much either. You point? 
 > 
 > Cops use plea bargains for blackmail. 
  
 Prosecutors control the case (at least where I'm from) once it's submitted 
 to them. Plea bargaining isn't something that cops directly control. You're 
 tilting at windmills. 
  
 > Cops don't hate plea bargains, they hate DAs that give plea bargains. 
  
 You gotta have it both ways, don't you? 
  
 > I speak from first hand experience. 
 > 
 > You attempt to answer everything with dismissal as bullshit. 
  
 Nah, it's just you. You bring out the best in me. 
  
 > > > Even then, cops will blackmail and intimidate their way out of these 
 > > > complaints too. 
 > > 
 > > Would that be all cops or just those in your vivid imagination? 
 > 
 > Wow, attempting to win the argument by changing it to an argument about 
 > "all cops." 
  
 You used the unqualified plural "cops" - explain the difference. 
  
 > You get lamer by the minute. 
  
 And you cannot possibly get any lamer. (Isn't this fun!) 
  
 > > > Cops don't have an axe to grind? 
 > > 
 > > For the most part - nope. 
 > 
 > So, somewhere less than 50% of them do? 
  
 Rhetorical? 
  
 > Are they the same ones who rape, murder, steal, distribute drugs, 
 > violate rights,  molest children, run jewel theft rings, plant evidence 
 and frame people? 
  
 It's your story - you tell it any way you want. .. 
  
 > > > You are incredibly ignorant. 
 > > 
 > > Thanks. I think you are a POS too. 
 > 
 > Your hatred is showing. 
 > 
 > I called you ignorant because you have no data. 
  
 And I called you a POS because that's what I think you are. 
  
 > > > I want all complaints handled exactly the same without prejudice.(your 
 > > > beliefs that cops are being accused simply for doing theiir jobs) 
 > > 
 > > My beliefs - just like yours - have nothing to do with the way things 
 are or 
 > > are likely to be in the immediate future. 
 > 
 > Mine do. I make changes. You live in perpetual denial. 
  
 You won't be making any changes that'll effect who I choose to give a pass 
 to though, will you? 
  
 > > > Now you argue that I claim all cops. 
 > > 
 > > Omitting the word does not mask the sentiment. 
 > 
 > The sentiment is that cops "do"in fact step outside the law to punish 
 > what they consider dirtbags, just like you consider me a dirtbag, 
 > deserving of police attitude adjustment by brutal treatment or 
 imprisonment. 
  
 So it is all cops then? And I seriously doubt that any attempt at adjusting 
 your attitude would do any good. Trying to nail a turd with a hammer just 
 ain't smart. 
  
 > > > Cops doing an honest job has no bearing on why cops dismiss complaints 
 > > > against  cops but arrest non cops on identical complaints every day. 
 > > 
 > > Do you even proof read the shit you post? 
 > 
 > I can't seem to dumb down my words to your level, idiot. 
  
 I guess I'll just have to keep on wondering just what the hell "doing an 
 honest job" means to your mensa mentality then... 
  
 > > Of course. I thought we'd decided that your position was more that of a 
 > > know-nothing malcontent? 
 > 
 > "We"?  You speaking for all cops or just Multiple personalities? 
  
 Nah, just you and I, KNM. 
  
 > > I think the term for your condition is "delusions of persecution"? 
 > 
 > Others thought that. 
  
 So I'm told. 
  
 > Send them an email, oh wait, they don't get email in prison. 
  
 See, the nuthouse placed you one-up on them. 
  
 > > Right...... and what was your tale of woe again? Oh yeah, you can't say 
 can 
 > > you? Not without tossing out your most recent illusions of anonymity. 
 > 
 > A member of my family(in-law)was forced to work for dirty cops. 
 > 
 > I attempted to help him escape their control. 
 > 
 > I was arrested on behalf of the cop, but the charges were dropped, 
 > after I was sent for psychiatric evaluation because the cops were 
 > attempting to discredit my words, just as you do. 
 > 
 > I contacted the FBI and gave much information including the cell phone 
 > number 
 > and pager number of the drug dealing cop that was threatening me and my 
 > family. 
 > 
 > I also contacted the state police and told them of the police threats. 
 > 
 > A full blown Federal investigation was initiated of the entire 
 > department and 
 > the cop who had targeted me was sent to prison for distributing drugs, 
 > based on 
 > a wiretap conversation where by was heard by the FBI warning his drug 
 > house that 
 > the FBI was watching them, from outside in a van. 
 > 
 > The results of the department wide investigation are due to be released 
 > very soon. 
 > 
 > Over 5 percent of the department went to prison. 
 > 
 > One cop killed himself as the investigation focused on him. 
 > 
 > My family member will be eligible for parole in 2012. 
 > 
 > The cops set him up for giving up the cell phone numbers and giving 
 > statements 
 > to the FBI. 
 > 
 > Now, every police cruiser has digital state of the art video recording 
 > devices 
 > that record everything that occurs while the red light are activated, 
 > including 
 > the cops conversations. 
 > 
 > Cases have been thrown out because the judge refused to believe the 
 > cops. 
 > 
 > The city faces bankruptcy in the next two months from the outrageous 
 > police costs, 
 > (over one third of all taxes) and the city's employees will stop being 
 > paid soon. 
 > 
 > Today is the day they bury one of the cops of the same department, who 
 > killed himself 
 > responding to a call who raced through an "s" turn through a tunnel and 
 > swerved to miss 
 > oncoming traffic, crashing and dying on the roadside. 
 > 
 > Likely do the the practice of not using red lights because you have to 
 > follow the rules 
 > when the recoring devices are on. 
 > 
 > The cops head was smashed causing his death. The cruiser hit a telephone 
 > pole in the 
 > passenger door and windshield. 
 > 
 > Seat belt enforcement only exists externally. 
 > 
  
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