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 From: defenderofenourmousmanhood@rogers.com 
  
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 > 
 > >     Today we have solid proof of what Israeli's real intentions are in 
 the 
 > > true spirit of Zionism . 
 > 
 > So you think that an elected government represents everyone in the whole 
 > country? That what Bush says represents every American?  Can you really be 
 > so ignorant? 
 > 
 > Again, how can Sharon's statement represent the "True spirit of Zionism" 
 > (which you proved you don't have a clue as to what Zionism means) if at 
 one 
 > point 80% of Zionist supported a Palestinians State? Many of these people 
 > called for a full withdrawal as well. 
  
 No, representative government does not, cannot and will never represent 
 everyone in the whole country. 
 Often it does not even represent the majority, and often the majority does 
 not even participate in their democratic right to vote away their right to 
 democracy. But until we figure out a workable way to bestow true democracy 
 on the people, we have to use the systems we have, and yes they can be 
 manipulated by interests with power. 
  
 Unilateral withdraw of any lands is a gesture of peace. It says we are 
 serious, here is a gesture to peace, to move to the process. 
 Things will never go back to the past. The future is here to day - deal with 
 it. This is a huge movement on the part of Isreal. For decades they have 
 flattly said, "No Land without Peace". Now they are giving up land 
 unilaterally. No they are not giving up the most strategic lands, nor are 
 they ever likely to give them all up. Well not while anybody that is alive 
 today is alive. Perhaps after peae has been long standing strategic lands 
 may be returned to a peaceful Palestine. But not today. 
  
 It is significant, because it is unconditional and unilateral. It says, we 
 are sincere about building peace and prosperity in the region. 
 It is a gesture to say, were are serious, come to the table and discuss 
 peace. Perhaps you will show a gesture by unilaterally imposing a ceasefire, 
 or something that actually moves a resolution to this ongoing conflict 
 forward. Of course it is not enough. 
 It is not intended to be enough. It is just going ahead an making a 
 consession. 
  
 Or perhaps you'd prefer a move in the other direction? Do you secretly pine 
 for Israel to send in its jets. I mean certainly you don't support 
 perpetuation of the impasses to the ceasation of hostilities and a lasting 
 peace? There are only 3 positions. 
  
 For the status quo, resolution or escallation? This one act does not resolve 
 anything, but it moves toards resolution, a block in the foundation. Again 
 you are suspicious, ulterior motives. Much like the xxxtoolbar is from 
 Google, the withdrawl is also a cause of paranoi and distruct, conspiracy 
 and power politics. Sounds to me like you are just disguising your 
 anti-semitism by waiving the Palistinian cause. I mean you are not even 
 Palistinian - are you!?? 
  
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