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 From: dogglebe@yahoooo.com 
  
 On 13 Apr 2004 11:59:57 -0700, dnland@spencer-lawfirm.com (David) 
 wrote: 
  
 >butch44@id7.com (whesen) wrote in message 
 > It seems that big tobacco has a plan to fight the smoking issue 
 >through 
 >> the hospitality industry and everytime a new ban is in the works, a 
 >> group of bar and restaurant owners/operators get together and start 
 >> spreading stories about financial hardship they will have if bans go 
 >> through. 
 >> 
 >Pierce County Washington (tacoma), just recently passed a smoking ban 
 >in all restaurants and bars. While I don't have any problem with the 
 >ban, it is obvious that the ban has had a drastic effect at least here 
 >in Washington on business. Since the ban 2 months ago, all of our 
 >non-tribal casinos have been hemoraging business as the gamblers drive 
 >out to the tribal casinos where they can still smoke even within the 
 >county. The casinos' business has dropped by almost fifty percent and 
 >they've already laid off more than 1/3 of their staff. 
 >While the ban is a good thing, and I support it, no one can claim that 
 >it does not have an effect on business. 
  
 When the ban spread across New York, the Ramapo Valley Brewery, in 
 Suffern, lost a lot of business as the smokers walked a few blocks 
 into Jersey where they could smoke in bars.  The owners put a sign on 
 their sign and (I think) in some advertisements asking when the 
 non-smokers will be showing up to support the business. 
  
 They haven't. 
  
  
 Phil 
  
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 visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website: 
 http://www.homebrewersguild.org 
  
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