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 From: gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com 
  
 On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:55:53 -0500, "Jeff T"  wrote: 
  
 ==>> ==>In fact the 
 ==>> ==>US, amongst other countries, was sending food aid to Iraq, it just 
 ==>never got 
 ==>> ==>to the people. 
  
 IG: 
 ==>> The U.S. may have been *selling* some food to 
 ==>> Iraq in exchange for "food-for-oil" revenues, 
 ==>> but your suggestion it donated food to Iraq 
 ==>> for presumably humanitarian purposes is a lie. 
 ==>> And if you have any evidence that food that 
 ==>> was supplied to Iraq did not  get to the people, 
 ==>> you'd better post it, because otherwise your 
 ==>> claim seems like just so much propaganda. 
  
 ==>Try looking to the UN website for answers to that... 
  
   I did.  There's nothing there to contradict what 
   I said.  There's also nothing to support your 
   out-of-your-ass claim that food aid to Iraq, "never 
   got to the people." 
  
 ==> Perhaps if you had of 
 ==>done so to begin with, you would appear to be less the witless wonder you 
 ==>appear here. 
  
   Perhaps if you hadn't pulled a false statement 
   out of your ass, I wouldn't have had to waste 
   my time checking information, only to find out 
   that, as I suspected, the "information" I was 
   checking was no more than a piece of misinformation 
   you mindlessly repeated like the obedient little shill 
   for the U.S. that you apparently are. 
  
 [snip] 
  
 ==>Take it in context, and again, you would appear to be less the witless 
 ==>wonder you are. I attacked your comparision of the American occupation to 
 ==>the Nazi occupation... 
  
   Man, you ARE smoking some good shit.  But perhaps 
   you should ease off. 
  
   In what fantasy of yours did I compare the American 
   occupation of Iraq to the Nazi occupation?  Where did 
   I even *mention* the Nazi occupation? 
  
 ==> Apples to rotten oranges. But go figure, a pot 
 ==>smoking, granola eating left wing wing nut such a syourself couldn't 
 grasp 
 ==>such a simple concept. 
  
   It would be nice if you could even grasp what's 
   been said from article to article.  But I guess that's 
   asking too much. . . . 
  
 [snip] 
  
 ==>> Get serious.  How the hell would you know anything 
 ==>> about the motivations of these goons? 
  
 [...] 
  
 ==>I AM A SOLDIER. THESE ARE MY PEERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
  
   The kill-for-hire mercenary goons torn apart 
   in Fallujah are your peers?  Are you sure you 
   want to claim a kinship with these miscreants? 
  
 [snip] 
  
 ==>Really, how so? ICH DIEN... Look it up some time, it's a common motto for 
 ==>soldiers, as is PRO PATRIA. Your ignorance is showing again... Oh wait, 
 you 
 ==>wear your ignorance proudly. 
  
   Sorry, I've never considered mottos and slogans 
   an adequate substitute for thought.  You, obviously, 
   put much greater stock in them than I do.  That's 
   probably no surprise.  Military leaders have known for 
   centuries that if you can replace your soldiers' 
   capacity for independent thought with slogans and 
   mottoes, they are more likely to charge into 
   machine-gun fire when you order them to. 
  
 [snip] 
  
 ==>"Arguing" with you has most certainly not been a pleasure. 
  
   I can imagine.  It must be uncomfortable finding 
   yourself outflanked and outgunned, your retreat 
   cut off and your supply lines severed, your ammunition 
   so low you are reduced to pulling blanks out of your 
   ass. 
  
   I accept your surrender. 
  
 ==> You are a vapid, 
 ==>myopic twit. How anyone can "claim" to be educated, and yet be so totally 
 ==>ignorant is beyond me. 
  
   Where did I claim to be educated? 
  
  
  
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 The virtue most often rewarded is patience. 
 -Ivan Gowch 
  
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