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  Msg # 31682 of 32021 on ZZNY4436, Thursday 9-28-22, 11:22  
  From: JOHN MANN  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: NYC car ownership down  
 XPost: nyc.transit 
 From: metroboyeh5@yahoo.com 
  
 On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:05:40 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels" 
   tickled my privates with this: 
  
 >John Mann wrote: 
 >> 
 >> On 6 Apr 2004 14:02:17 -0400, steveo@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) 
 >> tickled my privates with this: 
 >> 
 >> >From the NY Post: 
 >> > 
 >> >    It may not seem like it from the rush-hour gridlock - but 
 >> >    New Yorkers are losing their love affair with the car. 
 >> > 
 >> >    As the industry gears up for this week's international auto 
 >> >    show in Manhattan, the number of vehicles owned by city 
 >> >    dwellers has dropped for three years in a row. 
 >> 
 >> While the rest of you go at each other, I thought I'd interject; 
 >> 
 >> The reason the number of vehicles owned by city dwellers has dropped 
 >> for three years now is that in the past three years or so, city 
 >> dwellers in ever increasing numbers have been registering their cars 
 >> out of state (from what I see daily in traffic around me, mostly in 
 >> the states of Pennsylvania, Virginia, South Carolina, Illinois and 
 >> Washington DC, in the order of frequency that I see it).  Technically, 
 >> they're not owned by city dwellers; they're just being registered out 
 >> of state (I assume to "get over" on registration fees and the cost of 
 >> insurance in the city.) 
 > 
 >Registration fees are a lot lower in NYC and NYS than in Chicago, and 
 >the insurance is about the same. 
  
 I said they were Illinois plates; there is no such thing as a 
 "Chicago" plate.  I don't know what city any of these cars are from by 
 looking at the plates. 
  
 >> And when pretty much every car I see on the BQE is bearing 
 >> Pennsylvania OR Virginia license plates, please don't tell me they're 
 >> commuting here from Philadelphia and Arlington. 
 >> 
 >> I thought this was illegal, anyway? 
 > 
 >A car must be registered in the state of "primary residence," described 
 >as where one lives for half the year or more. 
  
 Sooooo.....then.....why is practically every third car I see in New 
 York carrying out-of-state LP's?  Again, in order of dominance; 
 Pennsylvania, Massachusetts (forgot that last time), Virginia, South 
 Carolina, Illinois, and Washington DC?  And this is on a year round 
 basis, so they're not tourists.  So, basically, one or two million of 
 the city's inhabitants live elsewhere for more than half the year? 
 This would play havoc with the supposedly "official" census talley for 
 the city then. 
  
 It's the same with the cars I see every day parked on my block and in 
 my neighborhood; in this area, 1/3 to 1/2 of the cars do not carry NY 
 plates.  I'm not familiar with registration fees for New York; I don't 
 own a car here.  But I am familiar with the fact that the city has one 
 of the highest insurance rates in the country. 
  
 My guess; widespread (and apparently officially sanctioned by 
 indifference) insurance scamming. 
  
 ____________________________________ 
  
 Johnmann 
  
 "Man who play with fire scream like woman." 
  
 ---Confucius (sort of) 
  
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