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 From: gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com 
  
 On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:33:08 GMT, "_ G O D _"  
 wrote: 
  
 ==>"Ivan Gowch"  wrote in message 
 ==>news:lqqn809q13mn7qmkv4r6bnlj7ttjiggn9p@4ax.com... 
 ==>> 
 ==>> Wouldn't the banishing jurisdiction run the risk 
 ==>> that the killer would simply sneak back in and 
 ==>> continue killing people? 
  
 ==>I don't think that would be easy to "sneak back" from places 
 ==>of Central Asia of Africa, the only countries which shouldn't 
 ==>give a damn who is coming off the plain on their land. 
  
   Now I know you're insane.  You fantasize 
   that the nations of Asia or Africa would 
   welcome North American serial killers? 
   Why do you think they should?  You figure 
   the lives of Asian or African women and 
   children are worth less than North Americans? 
  
   You doubt "banished" murderers could 
   sneak back into the country and continue 
   killing people? 
  
   Man, you need help. 
  
 ==> It's the 
 ==>getting on the plain to US, or any other civilized country, where 
 ==>"serial / mass murderer" would be able to  crime, which 
 ==>would be the hardest obstacle to overcome, Ivan.... 
  
   Why?  Nineteen Saudi Arabian terrorists planning 
   a major assault on the United Snakes seem 
   to have had no trouble whatsoever getting into 
   the country.  What would be the odds of detecting 
   a "banished" killer?  I'd tell you to get serious, 
   but I know that, unfortunately, you already are. 
  
 [...] 
  
 ==>You know, Ivan, I suggest you listen to yourself first, 
  
   I give you the same advice.  Your absurd 
   proposal provides nothing but ammunition for the 
   neo-cons and other punishment-happy goons 
   to shoot down any reasonable ideas for 
   reforming the system.  In your madness, you're 
   helping to ensure that the system will become 
   worse, not better. 
  
 ==>Because you don't really know the perfidy of works 
 ==>of the predatory incarceration industry and the techniques 
 ==>of dictatorship of despots, 
  
   Actually, I know them quite well. 
  
   What you don't seem to grasp is how just about 
   everybody in the entire world regards as utterly 
   insane a suggestion that serial killers and mass 
   murderers be sent on their way, free to kill 
   again somewhere, sometime. 
  
 ==>Just tell me, if you don't believe in US justice, do you really 
 ==>believe that those people you named were properly tried? 
  
   Bundy confessed.  Ridgway confessed. Olson confessed. 
   The bodies of Gacy's victims were found under his 
   house.  No doubt at all about any of their guilt. 
  
 ==>The information you received from government tabloids 
 ==>was intended to discredit those people not just because 
 ==>of their crimes, but because of their individual record with 
 ==>people whose desires to get rid of them supercede any 
 ==>justice elements of society.... 
 ==> 
 ==>I would like to hear their stories firs-hand, before drawing 
 ==>conclusions similar to yours on the account of their crimes.... 
  
   Whoo-eee.  You're mad as a hatter, pal. 
   And it's your absolute right to be as crazy 
   as you wanna be. 
  
   But I really wish you'd adopt another "cause" 
   to rave insanely about.  Reform of the corrupt 
   American INjustice system is too important 
   to be discredited by the nutso prattling of 
   a terminal wacko. 
  
  
  
  
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 NEVER consent to a search. 
 NEVER confess. 
 NEVER discuss your case with others. 
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