XPost: alt.conspiracy, ba.general, la.general 
 XPost: soc.culture.jewish 
 From: dorfman@rahul.net 
  
 The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe (reniggade@anglicam.org) wrote: 
 : On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman 
 :  wrote: 
  
 ... 
  
 : I've already told you the conditions under which I would pay for such 
 : a test.  They seem unacceptable to you.  Your motives, as always, are 
 : suspect. 
  
      The deal was not that you would pay for a test up-front, but 
 that we would both provide checks to the lab, and that if the test 
 showed the presence of human blood my check would be cashed; if not, 
 your check would be cashed. 
      In addition the lab would be selected based on business records 
 that show it has no Jewish ownership, and the lab would certify that 
 no Jews worked on the tesing, and that the pack of five boxes of 
 matzoh was intact, and that each box was intact. 
      These conditions are, of course, unacceptable to you because 
 you know that there is no blood in the matzohs; no other reason. 
  
 : >: > You are 
 : >: >an inveterate liar: 
 : >: >- Hebrew and Yiddish are the same language (or whatever version 
 : >: >of that you are peddling today). 
 : > 
 : >: They are two different forms of the same language:  one written and 
 : >: the other spoken. 
 : > 
 : >     Remind me which was which.  Was Ancient Hebrew a written Germanic 
 : >language (millenia before there were Germans), or modern Yiddish the 
 : >written form of a spoken language in which the Ten Commandments, the 
 : >Torah, and the Talmud were not really written? 
  
 : You are really confused.  Ancient hebrew was a semitic language. 
 : Yiddish is a germanic language written in a semitic script.  That 
 : semitic script is known as hebrew.  Clear enough now? 
  
      Excellent.  Now determine how the numbers 1 to 10 are expressed 
 in ancient Hebrew and Yiddish.  And Arabic. 
  
 : >: >- Airlines will not give reservations to 
 : >Jews. 
 : > 
 : >: El Al will. 
 : > 
 : >     As will all others, possibly excluding Arab airlines.  (I have 
 : >not checked with them.) 
  
 : Where is the evidence of your confirmed one-way reservation? 
  
      I will not make the confirmed reservation until we have agreed 
 how you are going to pay for it.  A reservation must be paid for in 
 a limited period of time, and you have shown that you are capable of 
 almost infinite delays.  I will not have the reservation expire 
 unpaid because of your delaying tactics. 
      My suggestions were to find a mailing address in your host 
 country where you could send a check in "British" Pounds, or a 
 phone number where you could give them a credit card number.  If 
 you have another alternative, I'm open. 
      But you won't, because you know that "British" Airways will be 
 happy to accept my reservation. 
  
 : > 
 : >: > (And, by the way, 
 : >: >when and how do you intend to pay for my business-class reservation 
 : >: >from the US to Israel on British Airways?) 
 : > 
 : >: Business class???  Jews fly steerage.  And you haven't shown any proof 
 : >: that you've made a *confirmed* one-way reservation. 
 : > 
 : >     If you are so confident that they haven't given me a reservation, 
 : >you would not care what class of reservation I claim to have.  I am 
 : >doing you a favor by not making a first-class reservation. 
 : >     I suggest the following: I will find an address in your host 
 : >country where you can send a check in "British" Pounds to pay for the 
 : >reservation.  Or a phone number where you can provide your credit card 
 : >to pay for it.  I'm open to other alternatives as well. 
  
 : Your suggestion is discarded.  I want proof that you will never return 
 : to your host country. 
  
      For the fourth time, this has nothing to do with me going to 
 Israel.  If I wanted to go to Israel, I would be happy to fly on El 
 Al.  It has to do with your claim...I almost said belief...that 
 other airlines will not give Jews reservations.  The simplest, most 
 direct way to prove or disprove that claim is to try to make a 
 reservation.  If you believed your claim, you would be happy to 
 finance my futile attempt, as it would cost you nothing.  Since you 
 know that your claim is the most outrageous of lies, you won't. 
  
      So we now have, immediately above, the three things that 
 "Rabbi Mokusatsu Troll" won't do, because he knows they would 
 expose his lies: 
 - Many airlines will not give reservations to Jews 
 - Yiddish and (modern) Hebrew are the same language 
 - The Blood Libel 
      And immediately below we have another lie that needs to 
 be more thoroughly exposed: 
  
 : >: >- El Al beats passengers for requesting a second cup of coffee. 
 : > 
 : >: Don't even think of asking for one. 
 : > 
 : >: >- ICAO sets requirements for passenger service such as that coffee 
 : >: >must be served 
 : > 
 : >: Of course. 
  
      I will write to ICAO and ask them to confirm that they have 
 nothing to do with setting requirements or stnadards for passenger 
 service, or specifically with providing refreshments. 
  
 ... 
  
 : >     Since I don't have a host country, I will have to look for a lab 
 : >in the US.  I will ensure that it is not Jewish-owned and that no 
 : >Jewish employees are involved in this test.  You will be able to 
 : >verify this through business records. 
  
 : Business records which show the race of every individual?  I don't 
 : think so. 
  
      I thought you could identify Jews from miles away.  Business 
 records will show the names of the owners. 
  
 : >     You do not have any Passover matzohs and cannot get any until next 
 : >Spring.  I have a full unopened pack of five boxes.  They will be used 
 : >for the test as described previously. 
 : >     Time to put up or shut up. 
  
 : You really think I'm prepared to go along with this very obvious scam? 
  
       You are not prepared to go along with it, precisely because 
 it is not a scam. 
  
 ... 
  
 : >: >: >     Last week you were calling Switzerland an ally. 
 : >: > 
 : >: >: Switzerland is a Western country and as such a military ally. 
 : >: > 
 : >: >     It's not a military ally, it's a military neutral.  Just ask 
 : >: >them. 
 : > 
 : >: If they're not against us they're with us (G.W. Bush paraphrased). 
 : > 
 : >     Cite?  (I believe he said the opposite.  But when you do this 
 : >research we will find out for sure.) 
  
 : Ahem.  Do you even know what the word "paraphrased" means? 
  
       Ahem.  I said "cite," not "quote."  Or is "paraphrase" 
 your word for distortion of quotes, as we have seen previously? 
  
 : >: > BTW for immigration purposes at the turn of the 20th century, 
 : >: >the US classified Switzerland as an Eastern European country. 
 : > 
 : >: The US (and its inhabitants) are so ignorant of world geography I 
 : >: doubt they even know the difference between Slovenia and Slavonia.  Or 
 : >: Slovakia, for that matter.  It is not surprising that they thought 
 : >: Switzerland was in Eastern Europe. 
 : > 
 : >     Cite for Slavonia? 
  
 : Why do you need one?  Surely even you know that Slavonia is a region 
  
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