XPost: alt.conspiracy, ba.general, la.general 
 XPost: soc.culture.jewish 
 From: dorfman@rahul.net 
  
 The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe (reniggade@anglicam.org) wrote: 
 : On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 03:55:02 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman 
 :  wrote: 
  
 ... 
  
 : >: >: You made the counter-assertion.  Prove yours. 
 : >: > 
 : >: >     You are right.  I have failed to prove my assertion and it is 
 : >: >just as unproven as yours. 
 : > 
 : >: There you are, then.  Mine is, however, intuitively more plausible. 
 : > 
 : >     I apologize for letting this ridiculous assertion go for so long. 
  
 : You may also apologise for all your other ridiculous assertions. 
  
      Since I haven't made any, no apoligies are necessary.  The only 
 thing I need to apologize for is any of your ridiculous assertions 
 that I may have failed to point out. 
  
 : >Yours is intuitively and logically very implausible.  It is 
 : >completely implausible that an entire ethnic group is congenital 
 : >liars and criminals. 
  
 : On the contrary, it is quite plausible.  Especially, as in the case of 
 : jews, when that race has recognised congenital character deficiencies. 
  
      Recognized by you.  Without proof (as you conceded above), 
 because it is unprovable.  And implausible, because it is untrue. 
 (Well, it's true that _you_ recognize them, but you are wrong, 
 therefore any conclusions drawn from that "recognition" are also 
 wrong. 
  
 : Here's another example:  how many muggers in your host country are 
 : white? 
  
      I don't have a host country. 
  
 : >  It is much more plausible that the inherited 
 : >criminal tendencies of all ethnic groups are quite similar to each 
 : >other; that there will not be a great difference in the hereditary 
 : >criminal tendencies of any one such group compared to any other 
 : >group.  A claim to the contrary is highly implausible and non- 
 : >intuitive, and thus requires convincing proof. 
  
 : Absolute nonsense.  The very idea that jews are no more prone to 
 : crimes of a financial nature than other races is not only 
 : counter-intuitive, it is completely absurd. 
  
      The idea that Jews are more prone to such crimes is not only 
 counter-intuitive and absurd, it is totally unrelated to the 
 ridiculous assertion that an entire ethnic group has inherited 
 tendencies to criminality and lying. 
      You start with a false premise, then use a process of "logic" 
 which would be fatally flawed even if the premise were true, and 
 reach the conclusion which can only be characterized as 
 ridiculous. 
  
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