XPost: alt.conspiracy, ba.general, la.general 
 XPost: soc.culture.jewish 
 From: dorfman@rahul.net 
  
 The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe (reniggade@anglicam.org) wrote: 
 : On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 17:37:27 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman 
 :  wrote: 
  
 ... 
  
 : >: >: >: You made the counter-assertion.  Prove yours. 
 : >: >: > 
 : >: >: >     You are right.  I have failed to prove my assertion and it is 
 : >: >: >just as unproven as yours. 
 : >: > 
 : >: >: There you are, then.  Mine is, however, intuitively more plausible. 
 : >: > 
 : >: >     I apologize for letting this ridiculous assertion go for so long. 
 : > 
 : >: You may also apologise for all your other ridiculous assertions. 
 : > 
 : >     Since I haven't made any, no apoligies are necessary. 
  
 : You have made umpteen ridiculous assertions.  It is only your 
 : ingrained jew chutzpah that prevents you from admitting it. 
  
     Name one assertion I have made that is ridiculous, especially 
 in comparison with your assertions that: 
 - Hebrew and Yiddish are the same language 
 - Many European airlines will not give reservations to Jews, and 
 specifically BA, Air France, Lufthansa, Air Canada, etc. will not 
 fly Jews to and from Israel. 
 - Airlines are required to serve coffee to passengers 
 - El Al beats passengers for asking for a second cup of coffee 
 - Possibility of truth to the Blood Libel 
 - Almost all Jews are liars and criminals 
      You don't even believe the first five yourself, but I'm not sure 
 what it is that is ingrained in you that makes you assert, re-assert, 
 and re-re-assert them.  However you very sensibly won't do the 
 research that will prove (1) is false, and won't back up (2) and (5) 
 with money. 
  
 : > The only 
 : >thing I need to apologize for is any of your ridiculous assertions 
 : >that I may have failed to point out. 
  
 : See above. 
  
 : >: >Yours is intuitively and logically very implausible.  It is 
 : >: >completely implausible that an entire ethnic group is congenital 
 : >: >liars and criminals. 
 : > 
 : >: On the contrary, it is quite plausible.  Especially, as in the case of 
 : >: jews, when that race has recognised congenital character deficiencies. 
 : > 
 : >     Recognized by you. 
  
 : Recognised by civilisation since time immemorial. 
  
     Cite?  I keep asking for a historical reference (other than an 
 anti-semitic tract) and you keep responding with the same 
 unsubstantiated blatant assertions. 
  
 : Where do you think 
 : 'anti-semitism'€ came from?  The moon? 
  
      From anti-semites. 
  
 : > Without proof (as you conceded above), 
  
 : No proof is required.  The empirical evidence (thousands of years of 
 : it) is overwhelming. 
  
      Again...cite?  Just one?  You can't. 
  
 : >because it is unprovable.  And implausible, because it is untrue. 
  
 : It is plausible precisely because it is true. 
  
      It is untrue and implausible.  And you are showing great 
 chutzpah by continuing to make the same unsubstantiated blatant 
 assertions. 
  
 : >(Well, it's true that _you_ recognize them, but you are wrong, 
 : >therefore any conclusions drawn from that "recognition" are also 
 : >wrong. 
  
 : On the contrary.  You refuse to recognise them because your jew 
 : chutzpah precludes you from doing so. 
  
      Chutzpah doesn't preclude anything.  ("By definition.") 
  
 : >: Here's another example:  how many muggers in your host country are 
 : >: white? 
 : > 
 : >     I don't have a host country. 
  
 : Let me make the question easier for you then.  How many muggers in the 
 : US are white? 
  
      I don't know how many are white, non white, male, female, 
 young, old, etc.  Enlighten me. 
  
 : >: >  It is much more plausible that the inherited 
 : >: >criminal tendencies of all ethnic groups are quite similar to each 
 : >: >other; that there will not be a great difference in the hereditary 
 : >: >criminal tendencies of any one such group compared to any other 
 : >: >group.  A claim to the contrary is highly implausible and non- 
 : >: >intuitive, and thus requires convincing proof. 
 : > 
 : >: Absolute nonsense.  The very idea that jews are no more prone to 
 : >: crimes of a financial nature than other races is not only 
 : >: counter-intuitive, it is completely absurd. 
 : > 
 : >     The idea that Jews are more prone to such crimes is not only 
 : >counter-intuitive and absurd, it is totally unrelated to the 
 : >ridiculous assertion that an entire ethnic group has inherited 
 : >tendencies to criminality and lying. 
  
 : The two concepts are closely linked.   One follows naturally from the 
 : other. 
  
      The first might follow from the second.  The second does not 
 follow from the first.  But since both the first and the second are 
 false, it is a moot point. 
  
 : >     You start with a false premise, then use a process of "logic" 
 : >which would be fatally flawed even if the premise were true, and 
 : >reach the conclusion which can only be characterized as 
 : >ridiculous. 
  
 : False according to your distorted jew perceptions.  The rest follows. 
  
      Rabbi Mokusatsu Troll talks about somebody else's distorted 
 perceptions.  LOL! 
  
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