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  Msg # 111 of 32001 on ZZNY4436, Thursday 9-28-22, 8:59  
  From: STAN DE SD  
  To: FRITZ  
  Subj: Re: Queer Documentary in the Making  
 XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.california 
 From: standesd@earthlink.net 
  
 "Fritz"  wrote in message 
 news:3F33EBE3.25B93C52@emuybcpl.net... 
 > Stan de SD wrote: 
 > 
 > > "Fritz"  wrote in message 
 > > news:3F328F8D.B557AEC8@emuybcpl.net... 
 > > > Stan de SD wrote: 
 > > > 
 > > > > "Ward Stewart"  wrote in message 
 > > > > news:jetuiv8ooi8cuis4cfoonak0sad0rmb1rk@4ax.com... 
 > > > > > On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 03:40:49 GMT, "Stan de SD" 
 > > > > >  wrote: 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > > wrote in message 
 > > > > > >news:691e612a4442a03cb79256938e5af969@free.teranews.com... 
 > > > > > >> 
 > > > > > >> Even if homosexuals win the right to same-sex marriage, they 
 will 
 > > > > > >> continue to seek multiple partnerships. Homosexual Andrew 
 Sullivan 
 > > is 
 > > > > > >> the senior editor at The New Republic. In his book, Virtually 
 > > Normal, 
 > > > > > >> Sullivan says that straight society will learn a lot from 
 > > homosexual 
 > > > > > >> marriages if they are legalized. He notes that straights will 
 learn 
 > > to 
 > > > > > >> have a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital 
 outlets 
 > > > > > >> between two men than between a man and a woman." In other 
 words, 
 > > > > > >> homosexuals have no intention of remaining monogamous to each 
 > > other. 
 > > > > > >> Sullivan criticizes what he calls the "stifling model of 
 > > heterosexual 
 > > > > > >> normality." 
 > > > > > >> 
 > > > > > >> Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile has openly called 
 for 
 > > the 
 > > > > > >> abolition of marriage and family as we know it. According to 
 > > > > > >> Signorile, writing in Out magazine, homosexuals should "fight 
 for 
 > > > > > >> same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, 
 redefine 
 > > > > > >> the institution of marriage completely. . . . to debunk the 
 myth 
 > > and 
 > > > > > >> radically alter an archaic institution. . . . The most 
 subversive 
 > > > > > >> action lesbians and gays can undertake--and one that would 
 perhaps 
 > > > > > >> benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of 'family' 
 > > > > > >> entirely." 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >In other words, militant queers want it both ways - they want 
 > > "inclusion" 
 > > > > > >into the same social institutions they are hell-bent on 
 destroying. 
 > > They 
 > > > > > >sound just like the malcontent teenager who says he really 
 doesn't 
 > > want 
 > > > > to 
 > > > > > >go to the party, but wants an invitation so badly merely so he 
 can 
 > > > > disrupt 
 > > > > > >it. :O| 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > Dim witted and nasty too -- a poisonous combination. 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Is it that you imagine that ALL Gays must have the SAME opinions? 
 > > > > 
 > > > > No. Do you consider my reference to "militant queers" equivalent to 
 "all 
 > > > > gays"? 
 > > > > 
 > > > > > Michael Signorile and I (for instance) have entirely divergent 
 views 
 > > > > > in the matter of marriage. 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Can you suppose that we have all subscribed to the :agenda" you 
 fret 
 > > > > > so over and we all toe the mark on every issue? 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Pathetic! 
 > > > > 
 > > > > What's "pathetic" is your demonstrably poor reading comprehension 
 skill. 
 > > > > Nowhere do I refer to all gays - you deliberately misread what I say 
 so 
 > > you 
 > > > > can berate me about it. Fucking asshole (no pun intended...) 
 > > > 
 > > > That sounds very like berating. 
 > > > 
 > > > I don't understand Stan, are you saying that it's ok for you and 
 > > > not someone else? Sounds like a double standard to me. 
 > > 
 > > You can be the sick perverted fuck to your heart's content with another 
 > > consenting adult in your own home, and I really don't give a shit. Where 
 you 
 > > get yourselves into deep shit (again, no pun intended) is your fanatical 
 > > desire to force the rest of us to accept your "lifestyle choices" as 
 > > acceptable and desirable. 
 > 
 > Don't get so excited Stan, nobody is trying to force you to do any 
 > thing. It's more like you lot are trying to force gays to do things 
 > your way. 
  
 Hardly. But then again, you never did have a clue. 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
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