XPost: alt.activism, ny.politics, nyc.general 
 XPost: nyc.politics 
 From: jeremy@dcnet2000.com 
  
 Obwon@real.com wrote: 
 > 
 > All that's being advocated is that 
 > smokers be given a "non-smoker" free 
 > environment to enjoy their smoking. 
 > But,  every proposal that gets them 
 > a non-smoker free place to smoke, 
 > you rail against it because you say; 
 > you'd either be forced to go there, 
 > or you'd be excluded from there. 
 > Why? 
 > 
 > Obwon 
  
 Finally someone who understands. 
 One funny thing about many of the rabid anti smokers, is that they do not 
 know 
 the difference between tobacco and cigarettes and tend to lump them 
 together. 
 Also many of them are like the right wingers against gay marriage, they have 
 often indulged themselves in the past, and may still do occasionally in 
 secret, but insist that you must never get a chance:-). 
  
 The other thing I love is when they refuse to read or integrate the peer 
 reviewed science on the subject, scream slogans based on fallacies or 
 distortions of the truth and when you comment about how little they seem to 
 know, claim you are making an ad hominen attack. 
  
 I like to smoke a fine cigar or two a month, in a place full of wood, select 
 Armagnacs and maybe accompanied by a jazz band in the background. I smoke 
 pure, well fermented tobacco that has no sugar tars, that has no harmful or 
 carcinogenic additives, even the wrapper is just a burning leaf. I chose not 
 to inhale, but I might want to some day. 
 If I invite some friends over to share the experience it is fine. If I ask 
 them to chip in a few bucks, it is still fine, but if I set a price for 
 anything it becomes illegal. Even if I called the place "Smokers Only" some 
 uptight idiot would want to claim a right to interrupt my enjoyment to 
 enforce 
 a different standard on my chosen environment. 
  
 JJ 
  
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