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  Msg # 1815 of 1954 on ZZNY4434, Thursday 9-28-22, 9:11  
  From: FREEDOM FIGHTER  
  To: OBWON@REAL.COM  
  Subj: Re: BAGMAN BLOOMBERG  
 XPost: alt.activism, ny.politics, nyc.general 
 XPost: nyc.politics 
 From: liberty@once.net 
  
  wrote in message 
 news:skvvh45jnsg42dikl5q4crefq09a42tmod@4ax.com... 
 > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:32:55 GMT, "Freedom Fighter" 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 >>"jeremy"  wrote in message 
 >>news:QdCTk.4722$pr6.1973@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com... 
 >>> Freedom Fighter wrote: 
 >>>> "jeremy"  wrote in message 
 >>>> news:oyiTk.8564$ZP4.7896@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... 
 >>>>> Freedom Fighter wrote: 
 >>>>> , but in the 
 >>>>>> case of tobacco smoke, others are harmed too. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> Lots of luck trying to defend that statement with peer reviewed 
 >>>>> science. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> JJ 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The harmfulness of second-hand tobacco smoke is well documented. 
 >> 
 >>> No it is not. What has happened is the un-qualified studies, with no 
 >>> acceptable level of peer review have been repeated and exaggerated to 
 >>> the 
 >>> point of becoming "accepted fact" 
 >>> The studies that show (peer reviewed I might add) that exposure to low 
 >>> levels of ETS reduce asthma incidence in children, seem to be hidden 
 >>> from 
 >>> view. 
 >>> 
 >>> As one of my friends who happens to be a research in the field states, 
 >>> "I 
 >>> have never written second-hand smoke on a death certificate." and as 
 >>> another asks, "Name me three people who died from ETS." 
 >> 
 >>Because the smoke does not kill people on the spot. 
 >>The deaths are said to be due to lung cancer, heart attack, asthsma, 
 >>stroke, 
 >>etc., but no mention is made of the exacerbating, sometimes causative 
 >>factor 
 >>of tobacco smoke. 
 >> 
 > 
 >  Although some people have smoked their 
 > entire adult lives and never had lung disease, 
 > while others who have never smoked get it. 
 > So that needs explanation as well. 
  
 There are other factors, such as genetic predisposition and the simultaneous 
 exposure to other disease-causitive agents. Of course there are individual 
 exceptions, but on the average, the statistics are undeniable - tobacco 
 smoking kills! 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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