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 From: liberty@once.net 
  
 "jeremy"  wrote in message 
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 > Freedom Fighter wrote: 
 >> "jeremy"  wrote in message 
 >> news:oyiTk.8564$ZP4.7896@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... 
 >>> Freedom Fighter wrote: 
 >>> , but in the 
 >>>> case of tobacco smoke, others are harmed too. 
 >> 
 >>> Lots of luck trying to defend that statement with peer reviewed science. 
 >>> 
 >>> JJ 
 >> 
 >> The harmfulness of second-hand tobacco smoke is well documented. 
  
 > No it is not. What has happened is the un-qualified studies, with no 
 > acceptable level of peer review have been repeated and exaggerated to the 
 > point of becoming "accepted fact" 
 > The studies that show (peer reviewed I might add) that exposure to low 
 > levels of ETS reduce asthma incidence in children, seem to be hidden from 
 > view. 
 > 
 > As one of my friends who happens to be a research in the field states, "I 
 > have never written second-hand smoke on a death certificate." and as 
 > another asks, "Name me three people who died from ETS." 
  
 Because the smoke does not kill people on the spot. 
 The deaths are said to be due to lung cancer, heart attack, asthsma, stroke, 
 etc., but no mention is made of the exacerbating, sometimes causative factor 
 of tobacco smoke. 
  
 > The inability to take away the  other environmental causes of death like 
 > carpets, Scotchguard, new car smell etc. make the isolation of ETS 
 > impossible except in very rare cases. 
 > 
 > BTW, please stop confusing tobacco smoke with cigarette smoke, they are 
 > not the same thing at all. 
  
 Tobacco smoke, no matter how it is inhaled, carries carcinogens and other 
 toxins, and is addictive. The fact that it is a causative factor in several 
 serious diseases is a matter of medical record. Combining it with chemical 
 carcinogens from other sources only increases the risk. 
 It is noteworthy that there is no correlation between marijuana smoking and 
 disease, other than occasional bronchitis. Studies in countries such as 
 Jamaica in which marijuana is in heavy use have borne this out. It is said 
 that marijuana contains antioxidants that nullify the effects of the 
 carcinogens in the smoke. 
 So why not legalize marijuana? Pot bars would do well, as they do in such 
 enlightened societies as Amsterdam. You could be smoking less and enjoying 
 it more, without risking your health. 
  
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