XPost: alt.activism, ny.politics, nyc.general
XPost: nyc.politics
From: liberty@once.net
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> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:14:23 GMT, "Freedom Fighter"
> wrote:
>
>> wrote in message
>>news:31a2bedb-7466-45ec-afcd-7ee0dede2694@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>>On Nov 13, 4:58 pm, "Freedom Fighter" wrote:
>>
>>> People that would inconsiderately subject others to their toxic,
>>> obnoxious
>>> smoke SHOULD be treated as second-class citizens. Blowing cigarette
>>> smoke
>>> in
>>> someone's face is an obvious act of HOSTILITY. Polluting the air other
>>> people breathe with such smoke is not much different.
>>
>>If you give them a place to gather and smoke, they can enjoy
>>themselves without bothering others. What is wrong with this?
>>---
>>Nothing, as long as non-smokers, who have a right to be in the same public
>>places, are not forced to inhale their smoke.
>>
>
> Errr... Problem with logic here:
> 1. Everyone has the right to go into any public
> area.
> 2. If said public area is designated for smokers,
> then you accept that condition if you go in,
> if not you stay out of that area. No one is
> "Forced" to go into the smoking area, except
> perhaps smokers who must smoke.
Granted.
> 3. Do you consider it your "right" to go into
> a place where people are doing something you
> do not like, and force them to stop so that
> you can be there?
No, but they should not be doing it in a "public" place, or they are
violating non-smokers' rights by forcing their exclusion. Let them open a
smokers' club, where members pay for the dubious privelege of poisoning
themselves and each other.
> Don't mix your logic, you'll only develop
> a false argument that will be weak and surely
> torn assunder, as in "of no lasting value".
> Or, other words for it, "a waste of time".
>
> Obwon
Understood.
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