XPost: nyc.general, nyc.transit, nyc.motorcycles 
 XPost: alt.autos 
 From: secret.fromyou@freespeech.com 
  
 In article <3F78C45C.9CD9C82D@nyc.rr.com> 
 mikE  wrote: 
 > 
 > Phil wrote: 
 > > 
 > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:35:50 +0000 (GMT), Whomever 
 > >  wrote: 
 > > 
 > > >Would life in prison without parole be an appropriate penalty 
 > > >for the "crime" of  jaywalking? No doubt some idealogues even 
 > > >more extreme than you in their concepts of "responsibility" 
 > > >would think so. 
 > > 
 > > Comparing a monetary fine to life in prison?  Shouldn't this be posted 
 > > in blowing.things.out.of.proportion?  Or mountain.out.of.a.molehill? 
  
 No, I'm saying the punishment should fit the crime. It would 
 have been sufficient in my case to paste a warning sticker on my 
 car - I would not have parked there again. But I was subject to 
 carnapping and the extortion of $160 for a most trivial 
 violation that harmed no one. 
  
 > How about all those wrongly arrested by your "hero" Ghoulee. 
  
 So Phil is a fan of Giuliani? That explains a great deal! I 
 wouldn't be at all surprised if you, Phil, given the chance, 
 were just as much a hypocrite and abuser of power as he is. 
  
 > Having an FALSE arrest on one's record MAY keep that person from getting 
 > a job, an apartment or a mortgage. 
  
 If it is false, one is justified in having the records of it 
 expunged and never divulging to anyone that it ever happened. 
  
 > > >I respect your opinions, and understand them, but I believe I 
 > > >HAVE been wronged, and I WILL be compensated for it - or the 
 > > >perpetrator will pay the price. 
 > > 
 > > You don't understand them.  You don't understand them at all.  If you 
 > > did, you would accept responsibility for your own actions and not 
 > > blames others for your own screw-ups. 
 > > 
 > > 'Screw-ups?'  That's foul and immature vocabulary.  Completely 
 > > innapropriate for this newsgroup.  Still, I won't accept 
 > > responsibility for it.  Blame the media!  I'm a victim of MTV for its 
 > > negative influence on today's society. 
 > 
 > You are a "victim" of your "Hom*Brew", Phil. 
  
 Alcohol - that too would explain alot. 
  
 Does Giuliani accept responsibility for his behavior when it is 
 abusive or in error? No, like CVS stores and their carnapping 
 goons, he believes "might makes right" and does as he damn 
 pleases, steps on whomever he wants to, because he is rich and 
 powerful and usually gets away with it. You protest too much, 
 Phil. Despite all your talk of responsibility I suspect you 
 might do the same thing if you were in a position of authority. 
 You most certainly are an authoritarian, believing we must obey 
 all "rules" to the letter and never question or fight them. 
  
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