XPost: nyc.general, nyc.transit, nyc.motorcycles 
 XPost: alt.autos 
 From: secret.fromyou@freespeech.com 
  
 In article <3f770d5a.13783213@news-server.nyc.rr.com> 
 address.in.sig@nyc.rr.com (Curly Sue) wrote: 
 > 
 > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:12:50 -0400, Mike Romain  
 > wrote: 
 > 
 > >Whomever wrote: 
 > >> 
 > >> This is a parking lot for public use, privately owned. 
 > > 
 > >There is where you are wrong.  It is 'not' a parking lot for 'public' 
 > >use, it is a private lot for customers only. 
  
 OK. I would have been a customer if they had the item I sought 
 in stock. Because they did not, I had to go elsewhare. 
  
 > >>Yes, the 
 > >> owners have a right to set the rules, but such heavy-handed 
 > >> dealing with an unintentional first offense is certainly unfair 
 > >> if not illegal. It is obviously intended to extort large sums 
 > >> for trivial offenses. 
 > > 
 > >So you have decided to fill up a private parking lot maybe causing a 
 > >'real' customer to go shop somewhere else because they couldn't park. 
 > >The owners certainly don't think that is a 'trivial' matter or you 
 > >wouldn't have been towed... 
  
 They are just out to make as much money as they can. There were 
 many unused spots in the lot, and my car was not blocking anyone 
 or anything. 
  
 > >> I do. That's why I advocate that everyone take responsibility 
 > >> for combatting and eliminating these unscrupulous practices - 
 > >> beginning with boycotting CVS and other such avaricious, 
 > >> captious property owners. 
 > > 
 > >Well, don't ever come to Toronto Canada because you will find 'no' place 
 > >free to park as you want.  Either you pay for parking or get towed if 
 > >you trespass on a 'private' for customers only parking spot. 
  
 They did not ask for payment to use the lot, as they should have 
 - they have found they can make more money through carnapping. 
  
 > >Some malls even have sections posted 'for shopping at 'X store' only 
 > >with a time limit even.  If you are seen going somewhere else, it's tow 
 > >truck time. 
 > > 
 > >They are 'all' like this up here. 
 > > 
 > >I know, I found out the 'hard' way same as you, except I had to go to 
 > >the impound lot via taxi to get mine back. 
 > 
 > One issue down here is that here the policies are inconsistently 
 > enforced.  Some places are more lenient, possibly because they 
 > generally have fewer problems.   I have never seen a car towed from a 
 > store parking lot (except a handicapped spot); not that it doesn't 
 > happen, of course, just that it's not something very obvious. 
 > 
 > Assuming that the incident happened as Whomever described and he was a 
 > CVS customer (although he didn't say that he actually bought 
 > something) and was gone only for 20 min, what CVS did was nasty and 
 > stupid, even if legal. 
  
 Thank you for acknowledging that. And it is for that reason, not 
 an irresponsible attitude, that I WILL get compensation! 
  
 > Just because they *can* do something doesn't mean that they should, it 
 > depends on their objectives and whether they view customers as assets 
 > or enemies.  If the purpose of the rule is to maintain space for 
 > customers and keep non-customers off the property, this can be 
 > accomplished without fining a customer who made a mistake.  I doubt 
 > they would fine someone $160 who got into the express lane with 30 
 > items. 
 > 
 > One easy and painless method would be to put another sign on the entry 
 > door with wording that indicates that the policy is an active one. 
 > Why should they do that?  Again, it depends on their objectives.  If 
 > they want to save their customers grief, they would make an effort to 
 > do so.  If the purpose of the rule is to raise funds and antagonize 
 > people, then they are doing the right thing. 
  
 They obviously do not care one whit about causing people grief, 
 only about making money. They HAVE made an enemy, and should 
 they not compensate me fairly, they will pay for it! 
  
 By the way, I have no intentions of using the courts, which are 
 often a joke is such cases, unable to enforce payment even when 
 you win a judgement. 
  
 BOYCOTT CVS STORES! 
 BOYCOTT CVS STORES! 
 BOYCOTT CVS STORES! 
  
 You may be hearing that phrase a great deal in the future. 
  
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