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  Msg # 2460 of 2619 on ZZNY4433, Thursday 9-28-22, 8:55  
  From: OBWON  
  To: LANCELOT SIMON  
  Subj: Re: Rally @ NY City Hall On Tuesday 5/25  
 XPost: nyc.transit, nyc.politics, nyc.general 
 From: ob110ob@att.net 
  
 On 28 May 2004 16:14:51 -0400, tls@panix.com (Thor 
 Lancelot Simon) wrote: 
  
 >In article <854fb0pp49krt5pub10idhlg9vn01aho80@4ax.com>, 
 >Obwon   wrote: 
 >>On 27 May 2004 23:27:09 -0400, tls@panix.com (Thor 
 >>Lancelot Simon) wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>In article <57ecb0pn2b0opq8r2064386tb7kidt6hv7@4ax.com>, 
 >>>Obwon   wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>  But that's because they can't look at the data where 
 >>>>the owner of the car was summoned by the alarm and the 
 >>>>theft was therefore prevented!   Or do they have that 
 >>>>data too? 
 >>> 
 >>>How dumb are you?  Do you really think that insurers only insure 
 >>>cars that are stolen? 
 >> 
 >>  And you're smart for thinking that only insured cars 
 >>get stolen? 
 > 
 >Given that only a trivial understanding of statistics and a quick 
 >glance at the data are required, I'd say no.  No, you don't have to 
 >be particularly smart to understand why it is reasonable to use 
 >insurance data for this purpose. 
 > 
 >On the other hand, you really do have to be droolingly, ponderously 
 >stupid to think that knowing which cars in a given sample _were_ 
 >stolen doesn't tell you which ones _weren't_. 
  
   Then you admit to being droolingly, ponderously 
 stupid then?  Very good way to proceed while debating 
 weather on not a new law is needed to prohibit an 
 ineffective product.  Lot's of wasted, expensive City 
 Council time to debate and forge a consensus on banning 
 a product that consumers agree is ineffective.  Boy, 
 what geniuses we be, huh? 
  
     We had a jumbo jet go over the area so low that it 
 rattled the windows,  while last year it would have set 
 off quite a number of car alarms, this time it didn't 
 set off even one.   But yes, by all means, stick to 
 analysing the insurance statistics to show that a bill 
 is desperately needed to prohibit an obsolete product 
 that people have already stopped purchasing. 
  
   G'Day matey! 
  
   Obwon 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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