XPost: alt.government.abuse, nyc.general, nyc.politics
From: ob110ob@att.net
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:21:04 GMT, "Freedom Fighter"
wrote:
>"slim" wrote in message
>news:3FCBAB98.721E46BA@nyc.rr.com...
>>
>> Phil wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:37:53 GMT, ob110ob@att.net (Obwon) wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> >> Bullyani made it a point to order people arrested for the most
>minor
>> > >>> >> victimless violations, such as drinking beer or smoking pot,
>jaywalking,
>> > >>> >> or
>> > >>> >> even not having a bell on one's bicycle.
>> >
>> > > Okay, go ahead and name the law you think they broke!
>> > >You might try to post a little support for any claim you
>> > >make, seeing as how you've long since surrendered your
>> > >credibility.
>> >
>> > Drinking in public isn't against the law? Isn't marijuana a
>> > controlled substance?
>>
>> THOUSANDS were stopped and frisked just because they were
>> not White, That is an outrage!
>
>It happened to me, and my skin IS white.
>
>This is just as outrageous as if it were not, as it is a violation of our
>fundamental Constitutional rights. Racism was a factor in many of
>Ghouliani's antisocial depradations, but the cops had to target at least a
>few whites to try to show it was not racially motivated.
>
>My stop and frisk is among the experiences that proved to me beyond doubt
>that Tyrant Ghouliani is a dangerous fascist with no respect whatsoever for
>our Constitution and the principles of freedom upon which America was
>founded.
>
>If there is any justice at all, his prostate cancer will return -
>
>
And LEO is trying to say that law abiding blacks welcomed
that kind of attention and police action because it was
keeping the nabe safe. I guess he forgot about what
happened to a law abiding black man who tried to draw his
wallet with his id in it. I guess he's also forgotten what
happened to another law abiding black man who tried to catch
a cab after work.
Perhaps LEO doesn't know how the street crimes units were
working. I saw it first hand in the Bronx, needless to say
it was disgusting! I saw, for example, where they would
stand by the turnstyles and exit gates at Fordham Road Grand
Concourse and order all young black and hispanic males over
against the wall for no reason. These kids were returning
from school or work and/or some were going home to change
for work or to go visiting.
They would be held against the wall for as much as half an
hour while the police took their sweet time searching them.
All the while people exiting the subway would see them being
held and searched, and have to try to guess if they'd done
something wrong or not. Talk about needless humiliation!
If the kids complained that they'd already been searched
elsewheres, even just minutes ago, they were likely to
experience rougher going, the police have a large bag of
tricks they can and do dip into to silence complainers.
Then, I went up to the street and lo and behold, not two
blocks away, just around a corner, I see twenty more kids
lined up against a wall. It's quite likely that some of
these kids were the same ones already searched exiting the
subway.
In any event I heard nothing good about these searches,
kids and young adults were being stopped so frequently it
was almost impossible for them to navigate the streets. Not
to mention those who were charged with resisting arrest,
disorderly conduct etc., for merely protesting their
treatment. It was a godawful mess that would not have been
tolerated in say; Midwood, Howard Beach, The East or West
Village or the Upper East Side where merchants and residents
alike would have breathed a hot breath of fire at city hall.
But, none of this kind of thing was reported. The media
sent no reporter into these poor nabes to find out how
people felt about these new safe neighborhood programs. I
guess they already knew, or they could get the skinny by
simply droping a line to the good ol' Manhattan Institute
hey?
Obwon
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